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Biggest baseball collapse

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by PhilaYank36, Oct 1, 2007.

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Simple: who had the biggest choke-job in baseball history?

  1. '07 Mets

    7 vote(s)
    17.9%
  2. '04 Yankees (ALCS)

    13 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. '03 Red Sox (ALCS)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. '03 Cubs (NLCS)

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  5. '95 Angels

    2 vote(s)
    5.1%
  6. '93 Phillies (World Series)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. '88 Mets (NLCS)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. '86 Angels (ALCS)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. '86 Red Sox (World Series)

    4 vote(s)
    10.3%
  10. '84 Cubs (NLCS)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. '78 Red Sox

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  12. '69 Cubs

    2 vote(s)
    5.1%
  13. '64 Phillies

    8 vote(s)
    20.5%
  14. '51 Dodgers (Shot Heard 'Round the World)

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  1. Cansportschick

    Cansportschick Active Member

    I haven't voted yet on this, but statistically, you could make a case that the 95 Angels tanked badly.

    Before August 20th, the team was 9 games ahead of the Rangers. After August 20th of that year, the Angels went 12-26. They lost a one playoff game to the Seattle Mariners in the end.
     
  2. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Yeah, Can, but it took them a bunch longer to gag than it did the Mets.
     
  3. Cansportschick

    Cansportschick Active Member

    True, agree with you there wicked. The Mets had homefield advantage in their last seven games. They only won one game. They fell apart on all levels (even the mental front).
     
  4. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    And San Diego didn't make the playoffs either.

    How far behind the Mets were the Rockies with 17 to go? They were probably farther back than Philly was.
     
  5. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    From MLB.com, Sept. 13 standings:
    New York 83 62 .572
    Philadelphia 76 69 .524
    Colorado 76 69 .524

    Who played that night? Colorado and Philly, at Citizens.
     
  6. EE94

    EE94 Guest

    Henke was no Mitch Williams, but I don't think he was on that 1993 roster. Duane Ward, Henke's setup man, was the closer that year.

    Any why are the 1993 Phillies (World Series) on this as chokers?
     
  7. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Cuz PhilaYank has a habit of putting together stupid lists. They did not choke, except for Wild Thing giving up the home run. They were massive underdogs in the Series playing against the defending champs.
     
  8. mike311gd

    mike311gd Active Member

    I'm pretty sure Henke was the Rangers' closer in 1993.
     
  9. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Henke was gone after 1992. Ward was given the closer's job -- which he deserved -- but Henke was disappointed he wasn't offered to be the set-up man. He said he would have gladly switched roles.

    He re-joined the Rangers (who originally lost him to Toronto) for two seasons, and finished second in the NL in saves during his final year -- 1995 in St. Louis.
     
  10. boots

    boots New Member

    What people who don't know the game fail to realize is that Fregosi didn't have anyone left to throw. Williams was spent but he was all he had in the pen.
     
  11. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    That no-one-to-throw excuse could've easily been used on the '04 Sox after the ALCS, but people pitch through tired arms on the big stage.
     
  12. mike311gd

    mike311gd Active Member

    The 1993 Toronto Blue Jays were built to win the World Series, from the starting pitching to their potent offense (Henderson, White, Alomar, Carter, Olerud -- .363 -- Molitor, Sprague, Borders and Fernandez). The Phillies, who were obviously pretty damn good, were still the underdogs. Oh, yeah. The Blue Jays were also the returning champs. That was not a choke.

    By the way, the order was done by memory. Thank you, countless years of playing Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball. You have finally paid off.
     
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