Best shortstops of all time

Interesting.. Larkin and Visquel, but no Alan Trammell.

 

Larry Bowa. If I'm not mistaken he still has the career fielding average. I know he had it when he left the game.

 

There is no statistic in all of sports more significant than career fielding percentage.

 

What about game-by-game fielding percentage? Who holds the current record?

 

Somebody get Stats Inc. on the phone.

 

i loved bowa as a player, but offensively he stunk and his fielding percentage was skewed by playing on turf.


and he'd laugh if he knew he was even being discussed in a debate about best shortstops ever with regards to jeter.

gosh, i know how much bile there is about jeter being overrated, but get a grip, people.

 

You know more about baseball than me, bw. But surely fielding isn't equally as important as hitting, right?

 

Has Rey Ordonez been out of baseball 5 years yet, or do we need to wait another year for Cooperstown?

 

I don't have a clue. Honestly.

But if not 50/50, then at least 45/55, no? You can't win if you don't score any runs. But you can't lose if you don't give up any. Why wouldn't it be close to equal ... at worst?

Hitting's just a lot easier to measure. You KNOW how many runs one home run counts as. But you can't easily measure how many runs that two diving catches saves.

 

But the difference between a mediocre fielder and a superb, all-time great fielder is...what? Couple dozen chances a season, only, say, 30 percent of which eventually turn into runs allowed? (I'm totally guessing, but it really can't be that much.)

But the difference between a mediocre hitter and a great hitter is dozens of runs scored and/or driven in.

 

Buck- I'm stunned that you're on this side of the argument. You sound like Sterling & Waldman explaining why the Yanks were right to play Dougie M. & Cairo at 1st, because they save more runs with their gloves than they give away with their bats.



Sorry, cheap shot. But it was the first thing I thought of.