Baseball's perfect financial setup vs. the dreaded NFL

Them's some rosy glasses.

 

Dude, I don't get this. Why does this throw you into such a rage? Why do you have to get so angry and violent and profane after we've swapped cordial PMs and had some fun witih the Beckett thing? Why does this deserve the c-and-p treatment on this thread?

I think I'm right. I think my information backs my case up. I thikn the last seven or eight years proves that baseball is more balanced than football. You obviously feel differently. I'm sure there are many people who agree with you. So be it.

I know I've said and flung some crappy things in these debates. That being said, I don't get how you can't agree to disagree.

 

Your "information" doesn't back up your case.

The reason I am aggressive on the subject is I think that the baseball system will eventually bring the sport to its knees as payrolls continue to skyrocket.

It kills you that my points made have left you Michael Spinks-like in this discussion.

You would never, ever be so conciliatory if you thought you had the goods.

It's an extremely important discussion. I make no apologies for my being so assertive with the facts.

I created this thread only so that, if the discussion persisted, it wouldn't clog the Stove thread.

But I'm happy as a clam to let it die, knowing that, based on my unpopularity here, the silence in the discussion by many prominent posters who usually are engaged in such talks has been very telling.

 

That's nice. My "information" doesn't jibe with YOUR information, so therefore it must not back up MY case.

Yeah. Seven different champs this decade...wide-spread parity allowing the majority of teams to hit September still playing meaningful games...the Yankees and Red Sox forking over milliongs per year in revenue sharing...the Royals signing Gil Meche to a five-year, $55 million deal. You're right. Baseball is on its knees, blindfolded and shitting its pants, as it waits for the executioner to fire the fatal shot.

Care to make this a poll, as you did a while back? Didn't think so.

C'mon dude. Do you REALLY want to dig thru the site and find me flinging fuck yous at you over this very topic? Because they're all over the place. I am conciliatory b/c I'm tired of this always turning to a fuck you fest, b/c I like bantering with you on other topics and b/c I'd like to keep this free of that stuff. If you were, uhh, someone else who has chimed in on this topic, it would be different.

Fair enough. you are passionate about your side, I am passionate about mine. You can be assertive in your argument without the personal/profane attacks.

I have no idea what that last sentence means. We've had this discussion a lot, and everytime the tide of public opinion seems to shift my way, you pull out the popularity card. Might it be as simple as more people agree with me than with you? If I'm leading my followers to the Kool-Aid, let me know, because I don't even have a pitcher or plastic cups.

 

Hmmm...I wonder who that somebody else is.

I agree that it should have its own thread, just to avoid the potentially nasty threadjacks elsewhere.

And to address buckweaver's point above regarding the Arizona Cardinals and the Pirates, yes it would help tremendously if both teams started making better decisions.

But if such a miraculous change were to take place, the Cardinals would be in a much better position to contend because they already have the same resources as every team they compete with in terms of roster-building resources. The Pirates would still be at a disadvantage to the franchises that have more revenue coming in.

 

The Cardinals will be favored to win their division in 2008.... will the Pirates?

 

I just thought that sports was the arena where a level playing field was supposed to exist, and from there one determines the best athletes and teams.

You, BYH, wouldn't have a problem with an Olympic 100-meter race, where 7 runners had 100 meters to run, and an eighth had only 90?

You want to guess what how much the 2003 Marlins will be paid next year. $150 million? $170 million? $200 million?

The team not being able to keep its players was a travesty. And it was wholly because of the baseball system.

 

Let's play twist the stats to fit your argument! My turn:

The reason football has so much turnover is teams only play 16 games. Therefore, a one- or two-game swing changes everything. Baseball, not so much; you have to be good for a damn long time to make the playoffs.

 

Guess what?

When you are tight on finances, the first thing that gets socked is scouting.

The seamheads are about to lose the one whipping boy the NFL has to offer... funny, the ownership didn't change.