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Baseball Question: Range Factor for First Basemen

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by JR, Feb 3, 2007.

  1. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    So at breakfast this morning one of my sons brought up his favorite player, Carlos Delgado. That got into a discussion of his fielding abilities and I maintained that he was at best an average fielding first basemen with not much range.

    So, I'm trying to find out where exactly he compares with other first basemen. Delgado's RF was .916 which doesn't strike me as all that high.

    Anybody have an opinion or better still a link that compares all 1st basemen's defensive stats for last year?

  2. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    JESUS CHRIST... get the asshole an editor!

    only thingk I cant take from that is that .916 equals zero for the fielding-range people.

    what a clodding butcher
  3. WSKY

    WSKY Member

    Don't know where you can get the stats, but as far as better fielding first basemen, there are a bunch. A few that come to mind are Mark Teixeira, Derrek Lee, Albert Pujols, Todd Helton ...
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    "If you can play catch, you can play first."-Gene Mauch

    JR, I say this as a cyberfriend. Anyone thinking about the range factor of first basemen may be getting a little more deeply into baseball than is entirely healthy.
  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Amen, Gee. Amen!
  6. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    As I said on the hot stove (man, that comes off as a bad pun here) thread, sounds like we're talking about ovens. [priceisrightvoiceguy]Bob, this new Kitchenlite cooking station will leave all the housewives in the neighborhood GREEEEN with envy! It's got a range factor of .916, with six eyes, for those special occasions when you're having guests over for fondue! All of this can be had ... IF the price is right![/voice]
  7. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Ok, so as someone who thought Delgado was never paid the big bucks in Toronto for his fielding abilities, has anything changed since he became a Met? Still average after all these years?
  8. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    I'm a recovering sabermetrician.
    But thanks for the intervention. :)
  9. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Yes, JR, still average at best defensively.
    He's has never been in anybody's lineup because of his defensive prowess.
  10. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    My sentiments exactly.

    Try telling that to an 18 year old who maintains--as only 18 year olds can do--that he's "vastly underrated defensively" and that he was "the best Blue Jay ever". Ah, no my son, that would be Robbie Alomar.
  11. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    ESPN.com's baseball stats show fielding. You can sort by stat for each position. Delgado's 9.16 range factor puts him 17th of 21 full-time 1B last year. His zone rating might be a better indication of his skills. That's the balls in his zone that he got to. He's fifth there. Range factor is put outs + assists/innings played, which could be affected by the other infielders for a 1B, or by a bunch of fly ball pitchers.

  12. boots

    boots New Member

    He is a butcher in the field. Once his hitting goes, he'll be looking for a real job.
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