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Artest to Mavs?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Football_Bat, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/1089066.html (end of page)

    You're telling me this deal is hung up on a self-confessed pot-smoker who shoots 20% in the clutch and disappears in the fourth quarter?

    Get. This. Deal. Done.

    Sucks to lose Bass, but Artest is Bass with skins on the wall.
  2. Oz

    Oz Active Member

    I wouldn't trade for Artest if it cost me Howard, either -- I would trade if it paired them together.
  3. broadway joe

    broadway joe Guest

    Memo to the Sac Bee writer: If you have news of a concrete offer from the Mavs for Ron Artest, maybe that should be your main story and who's coaching the Kings' summer league team should be a note at the bottom. Not the other way around.
  4. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Bass is entering his fourth year, has a solid head, has improved every year, and is heading up. Artest is entering his 10th year, is an unstable lunatic who can snap any second, and is on the downward slope of his career arc.

    Not exactly a no-brainer, in fact, this deal has an "up n comer for aging former star" dynamic that smells distinctly similar to the Harris for Kidd mistake the Mavs made a few months ago. And I sure as hell wouldn't make this if I have to include Josh Howard.
  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    why does anybody still want Ron Artest?
  6. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Have you seen him play? :D
  7. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Ron is still one of the best two-way players in the NBA. He's a complete headcase though. If he sticks to his pattern, he'll play hard and all out for the Mavs (or whomever) for a season or so, then get disgruntled and request a trade.
  8. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    He is permamently disgruntled.
    Yes, he plays hard. But he's a total jerk and one of the most overrated players in NBA history.
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Agree on him being a jerk. Completely disagree on him being overrated.
  10. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    To roll the dice on Stack and Bass for Artest?

    It's worth it.

    You have a chance for an all-star in Artest. The two guys you are giving up are not going to be all-stars. In fact, if they start, you are probably in a little trouble.
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Screw-loose headcases do not help teams win. At best, they can be tolerated/ made useful for a while, if the team has other stronger/more dominant personalities at the center of its playing group (see Jordan/Bulls, Rodman) who can override their destructive influences, but building your team with a screw-loose nut case as one of the fundamental pieces of your rotation is asking for disaster. The screw-loose nut cases fold/blow up at the worst time (see Pistons, Rasheed Wallace) and take the team down with them.

    There are four things you need to do with screw-loose nut cases:

    1. Get
    2. Rid
    3. Of
    4. Them.

    They Do Not Help You Win.
  12. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    If I'm the Kings, I do not make this deal.
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