All of the sudden, Clinton looking not-so-unelectable

sportschick · Oct 25, 2007

Joe Rossi said:

Lyman_Bostock said:

And if you know anything about the history of Montana, you also would know it usually elects Dem senators and governors. Montana has a long Dem tradition, thanks to the mining and timber unions. I believe Burns was the first GOP senator in Montana elected to more than one term. And he was the first GOP senator elected in Montana, period, in more than 40 years.
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http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1497.html
http://www.montanacapitol.com/exhibits/governorsreception/governors/

A tip of the cap to Bostock in center field; this Montana electoral history is my lesson for today.

My premise stands, though: The Dems have to feel as good about their chances for those electoral votes than they have in a while.
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Clinton carried Montana for his re-election.

And Lymon, Montana did take a very hard turn back to the center in 2004. They'd had a GOP gov, house and Senate (as well as several other statewide elected offices were GOP), and they went to everything but one statewide office being Dem. Course the Dems in Montana are damned different than the Dems back East.

Lyman_Bostock · Oct 25, 2007

sportschick said:

Joe Rossi said:

Lyman_Bostock said:

And if you know anything about the history of Montana, you also would know it usually elects Dem senators and governors. Montana has a long Dem tradition, thanks to the mining and timber unions. I believe Burns was the first GOP senator in Montana elected to more than one term. And he was the first GOP senator elected in Montana, period, in more than 40 years.
Click to expand...

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1497.html
http://www.montanacapitol.com/exhibits/governorsreception/governors/

A tip of the cap to Bostock in center field; this Montana electoral history is my lesson for today.

My premise stands, though: The Dems have to feel as good about their chances for those electoral votes than they have in a while.
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Clinton carried Montana for his re-election.

And Lymon, Montana did take a very hard turn back to the center in 2004. They'd had a GOP gov, house and Senate (as well as several other statewide elected offices were GOP), and they went to everything but one statewide office being Dem. Course the Dems in Montana are damned different than the Dems back East.
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Well, I'd say if it was a real turn to the center, the offices would be split more evenly. But your point about Montana Dems not being like national Dems is spot on, at least from the perspective of someone who doesn't live there.

I think I've said before that Schweitzer is a Dem I could support.

sportschick · Oct 25, 2007

Lyman_Bostock said:

sportschick said:

Joe Rossi said:

Lyman_Bostock said:

And if you know anything about the history of Montana, you also would know it usually elects Dem senators and governors. Montana has a long Dem tradition, thanks to the mining and timber unions. I believe Burns was the first GOP senator in Montana elected to more than one term. And he was the first GOP senator elected in Montana, period, in more than 40 years.
Click to expand...

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1497.html
http://www.montanacapitol.com/exhibits/governorsreception/governors/

A tip of the cap to Bostock in center field; this Montana electoral history is my lesson for today.

My premise stands, though: The Dems have to feel as good about their chances for those electoral votes than they have in a while.
Click to expand...

Clinton carried Montana for his re-election.

And Lymon, Montana did take a very hard turn back to the center in 2004. They'd had a GOP gov, house and Senate (as well as several other statewide elected offices were GOP), and they went to everything but one statewide office being Dem. Course the Dems in Montana are damned different than the Dems back East.
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Well, I'd say if it was a real turn to the center, the offices would be split more evenly. But your point about Montana Dems not being like national Dems is spot on, at least from the perspective of someone who doesn't live there.

I think I've said before that Schweitzer is a Dem I could support.
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The Dems aren't leftists, hence a turn to the center

Most politicians in Montana tend toward libertarianism, and not just the Dems.

Gold · Oct 25, 2007

Captain_Kirk said:

I've said all along that the one sure way for the Dems to lose a gift wrapped election is to run Hillary. I'm getting very close to retracting that opinion. In fact, she does appear to be the odds on favorite to be sitting in the Oval Office in January 2009. As an aside (and no political overtones intended), how odd is it that she could be working daily in the office space where her husband was getting serviced by an intern?

And the Republicans problem isn't finding an able candidate to run, it's having that candidate try and overcome all the buffoonery and misconduct W and crew have created over the past 8 years. You could try and run Jesus Christ and I don't know if he could overcome the national distaste for Bush and correspondingly his party.

But, Hillary isn't out of the woods completely. She'll have to address a lot of hard questions over the next year, including her time spent travelling with the Grateful Dead:

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Hey, don't underestimate the Grateful Dead vote

jgmacg · Oct 25, 2007

Gold said:

Hey, don't underestimate the Grateful Dead vote
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Or the Whiffenpoof vote.

Dangerous_K · Oct 25, 2007

Gold said:

Captain_Kirk said:

I've said all along that the one sure way for the Dems to lose a gift wrapped election is to run Hillary. I'm getting very close to retracting that opinion. In fact, she does appear to be the odds on favorite to be sitting in the Oval Office in January 2009. As an aside (and no political overtones intended), how odd is it that she could be working daily in the office space where her husband was getting serviced by an intern?

And the Republicans problem isn't finding an able candidate to run, it's having that candidate try and overcome all the buffoonery and misconduct W and crew have created over the past 8 years. You could try and run Jesus Christ and I don't know if he could overcome the national distaste for Bush and correspondingly his party.

But, Hillary isn't out of the woods completely. She'll have to address a lot of hard questions over the next year, including her time spent travelling with the Grateful Dead:

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Hey, don't underestimate the Grateful Dead vote
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