A hole in the ground

PopeDirkBenedict · Sep 12, 2006

On any other day, I would have assumed this was a Celebrity Jeopardy category......

pallister · Sep 12, 2006

First, emoticons. Next, the world!

old_tony · Sep 12, 2006

dog428 said:

There was one part of that Olbermann rant that touched on the reason I truly detest George W. Bush -- the opportunities to unite not only this country but the rest of the world that he squandered.

All he had to do was give two shits about the country he's supposed to be leading. All he had to do was put the needs and well being of this country's people somewhere near the top of the list. All he had to do was stop the ignorant pandering to his 1% base and at least attempt to do right by the majority. Had he done those simple, simple things, the man could have gone down as one of the greatest presidents we've ever seen.

But he couldn't, because it went against everything he and his cohorts knew. It couldn't be a situation to unite the country. It was simply one more way to divide it. It couldn't be a situation in which he stopped worrying about his buddies at Haliburton or ExxonMobile. It was just one more way to make sure the guys who got him into office got another nice payday.

I have truly tried my best to understand what the people who continue to defend this guy see in him. I have never been successful. Other Republicans, I have no problem understanding why people endorse them and vote for them. But this ignorant and uncaring ass, I have no clue.

From the day he set foot in office, he has done nothing but shit on every person not in his small base of support. From the hourly workers to small business owners and from the poor to the upper middle class, he has repeatedly and without apology screwed every single one of them at every turn. And then, in some despicable effort to hold onto votes, he turned this nation's largest tragedy into a scheme. He used the fear from that day as fuel for a worthless and unnecessary war and to convince people that you don't change leaders during war time. He has lied, repeatedly, right to us. He has broken the law, admittedly, on several occasions. He failed, without shame, to uphold the oath he took for his office. And yet, time and again, whenever there is criticism, someone comes along to defend him.

There will, undoubtedly, be some mention of Clinton to follow this. That's fine, because for all of Clinton's faults, the one thing you can't say about him is that he didn't care. When shit happened, Clinton went in the shit. When there was a problem, Clinton worked to try and solve it. That's what a president does. That's what every decent president this country has ever elected has done. Certainly, all of those presidents had faults and you might disagree with the approach they took to solve the problems. But at the end of the day, you knew these men were truly trying to do what was right, not just for the Democrats or the Republicans, but for the majority of the country. Because that's what a decent president does.

George W. Bush does not even approach decency.
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Could there be a better example of Bush Derangement Syndrome?

Hey dog, there's a boogeyman under your bed. Boo!

Ben_Hecht · Sep 12, 2006

The ultimate example off Bush Derangement is . . . well . . . Bush.

Claws for Concern · Sep 12, 2006

Yeah, when was Hole's last album, anyway?

sportschick · Sep 12, 2006

Claws for Concern said:

Yeah, when was Hole's last album, anyway?
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Celebrity Skin -- 2000 or so. I know I dressed up like fat Courtney the year it came out. Seems like it was about then.

Lyman_Bostock · Sep 12, 2006

old_tony said:

dog428 said:

There was one part of that Olbermann rant that touched on the reason I truly detest George W. Bush -- the opportunities to unite not only this country but the rest of the world that he squandered.

All he had to do was give two shits about the country he's supposed to be leading. All he had to do was put the needs and well being of this country's people somewhere near the top of the list. All he had to do was stop the ignorant pandering to his 1% base and at least attempt to do right by the majority. Had he done those simple, simple things, the man could have gone down as one of the greatest presidents we've ever seen.

But he couldn't, because it went against everything he and his cohorts knew. It couldn't be a situation to unite the country. It was simply one more way to divide it. It couldn't be a situation in which he stopped worrying about his buddies at Haliburton or ExxonMobile. It was just one more way to make sure the guys who got him into office got another nice payday.

I have truly tried my best to understand what the people who continue to defend this guy see in him. I have never been successful. Other Republicans, I have no problem understanding why people endorse them and vote for them. But this ignorant and uncaring ass, I have no clue.

From the day he set foot in office, he has done nothing but shit on every person not in his small base of support. From the hourly workers to small business owners and from the poor to the upper middle class, he has repeatedly and without apology screwed every single one of them at every turn. And then, in some despicable effort to hold onto votes, he turned this nation's largest tragedy into a scheme. He used the fear from that day as fuel for a worthless and unnecessary war and to convince people that you don't change leaders during war time. He has lied, repeatedly, right to us. He has broken the law, admittedly, on several occasions. He failed, without shame, to uphold the oath he took for his office. And yet, time and again, whenever there is criticism, someone comes along to defend him.

There will, undoubtedly, be some mention of Clinton to follow this. That's fine, because for all of Clinton's faults, the one thing you can't say about him is that he didn't care. When shit happened, Clinton went in the shit. When there was a problem, Clinton worked to try and solve it. That's what a president does. That's what every decent president this country has ever elected has done. Certainly, all of those presidents had faults and you might disagree with the approach they took to solve the problems. But at the end of the day, you knew these men were truly trying to do what was right, not just for the Democrats or the Republicans, but for the majority of the country. Because that's what a decent president does.

George W. Bush does not even approach decency.
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Could there be a better example of Bush Derangement Syndrome?

Hey dog, there's a boogeyman under your bed. Boo!
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I think dog would make for a very interesting psychological study.

BitterYoungMatador2 · Sep 12, 2006

To put it in gymnastic terms, Olbermann stuck it.

Double J · Sep 12, 2006

Lyman_Bostock said:

old_tony said:

dog428 said:

There was one part of that Olbermann rant that touched on the reason I truly detest George W. Bush -- the opportunities to unite not only this country but the rest of the world that he squandered.

All he had to do was give two shits about the country he's supposed to be leading. All he had to do was put the needs and well being of this country's people somewhere near the top of the list. All he had to do was stop the ignorant pandering to his 1% base and at least attempt to do right by the majority. Had he done those simple, simple things, the man could have gone down as one of the greatest presidents we've ever seen.

But he couldn't, because it went against everything he and his cohorts knew. It couldn't be a situation to unite the country. It was simply one more way to divide it. It couldn't be a situation in which he stopped worrying about his buddies at Haliburton or ExxonMobile. It was just one more way to make sure the guys who got him into office got another nice payday.

I have truly tried my best to understand what the people who continue to defend this guy see in him. I have never been successful. Other Republicans, I have no problem understanding why people endorse them and vote for them. But this ignorant and uncaring ass, I have no clue.

From the day he set foot in office, he has done nothing but shit on every person not in his small base of support. From the hourly workers to small business owners and from the poor to the upper middle class, he has repeatedly and without apology screwed every single one of them at every turn. And then, in some despicable effort to hold onto votes, he turned this nation's largest tragedy into a scheme. He used the fear from that day as fuel for a worthless and unnecessary war and to convince people that you don't change leaders during war time. He has lied, repeatedly, right to us. He has broken the law, admittedly, on several occasions. He failed, without shame, to uphold the oath he took for his office. And yet, time and again, whenever there is criticism, someone comes along to defend him.

There will, undoubtedly, be some mention of Clinton to follow this. That's fine, because for all of Clinton's faults, the one thing you can't say about him is that he didn't care. When shit happened, Clinton went in the shit. When there was a problem, Clinton worked to try and solve it. That's what a president does. That's what every decent president this country has ever elected has done. Certainly, all of those presidents had faults and you might disagree with the approach they took to solve the problems. But at the end of the day, you knew these men were truly trying to do what was right, not just for the Democrats or the Republicans, but for the majority of the country. Because that's what a decent president does.

George W. Bush does not even approach decency.
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Could there be a better example of Bush Derangement Syndrome?

Hey dog, there's a boogeyman under your bed. Boo!
Click to expand...

I think dog would make for a very interesting psychological study.
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dog428 · Sep 12, 2006

Double J said:

Lyman_Bostock said:

old_tony said:

dog428 said:

There was one part of that Olbermann rant that touched on the reason I truly detest George W. Bush -- the opportunities to unite not only this country but the rest of the world that he squandered.

All he had to do was give two shits about the country he's supposed to be leading. All he had to do was put the needs and well being of this country's people somewhere near the top of the list. All he had to do was stop the ignorant pandering to his 1% base and at least attempt to do right by the majority. Had he done those simple, simple things, the man could have gone down as one of the greatest presidents we've ever seen.

But he couldn't, because it went against everything he and his cohorts knew. It couldn't be a situation to unite the country. It was simply one more way to divide it. It couldn't be a situation in which he stopped worrying about his buddies at Haliburton or ExxonMobile. It was just one more way to make sure the guys who got him into office got another nice payday.

I have truly tried my best to understand what the people who continue to defend this guy see in him. I have never been successful. Other Republicans, I have no problem understanding why people endorse them and vote for them. But this ignorant and uncaring ass, I have no clue.

From the day he set foot in office, he has done nothing but shit on every person not in his small base of support. From the hourly workers to small business owners and from the poor to the upper middle class, he has repeatedly and without apology screwed every single one of them at every turn. And then, in some despicable effort to hold onto votes, he turned this nation's largest tragedy into a scheme. He used the fear from that day as fuel for a worthless and unnecessary war and to convince people that you don't change leaders during war time. He has lied, repeatedly, right to us. He has broken the law, admittedly, on several occasions. He failed, without shame, to uphold the oath he took for his office. And yet, time and again, whenever there is criticism, someone comes along to defend him.

There will, undoubtedly, be some mention of Clinton to follow this. That's fine, because for all of Clinton's faults, the one thing you can't say about him is that he didn't care. When shit happened, Clinton went in the shit. When there was a problem, Clinton worked to try and solve it. That's what a president does. That's what every decent president this country has ever elected has done. Certainly, all of those presidents had faults and you might disagree with the approach they took to solve the problems. But at the end of the day, you knew these men were truly trying to do what was right, not just for the Democrats or the Republicans, but for the majority of the country. Because that's what a decent president does.

George W. Bush does not even approach decency.
Click to expand...

Could there be a better example of Bush Derangement Syndrome?

Hey dog, there's a boogeyman under your bed. Boo!
Click to expand...

I think dog would make for a very interesting psychological study.
Click to expand...

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That one there, J, it hurts.

Just wrong.

Double J · Sep 12, 2006

Sorry, dog.

Could have been worse, though. I could have posted his wife's picture too. ;D

Smasher_Sloan · Sep 12, 2006

BitterYoungMatador2 said:

And you'e missing the point: why is it Ground Zero is okay to sit as vacant as it likes for as long as it likes but Nagin and Blanco are supposed to have New Orleans looking as if nothing ever happened within a year?
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Wouldn't you think there's more urgency to build housing and have basic services like electricty and running water restored in New Orleans than there is to build a memorial in New York?

People aren't living in tents because of the delays in getting the WTC site under construction.

The issue in New Orleans is the basic human need for shelter.

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