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2019 MLB Regular Season running thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by John B. Foster, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The Tigers gave away JD Martinez, Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander for essentially nothing.
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  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    How much of that was driven by money? What I'm talking about is teams always selling off talent to protect the owner's profits.
  3. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Is it a rule that every effing marginal and back-up catcher eventually becomes a manager? Jesus man.
  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    The conventional wisdom is to take the bench coach of a successful active manager. Not saying it’s the right thing to do but Nats, O’s and Twins currently have Maddon’s Bench coaches.
  5. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    I remember that Baseball Prospectus had a glib Rule of Back-Up Catcher Defense - Namely, that the worse a catcher was at hitting, the more his reputation was exaggerated when it came to defense and "game handling," as if to justify his roster spot. I imagine that with managerial candidates, the catcher being the liaison between the pitching staff and manager, as well as often the clubhouse leader, probably gets them "extra points." (I bet someone has looked at C vs. non-C manager records, but I'm too lazy to Google for it right now.)
  6. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    Career WAR is a cumulative stat just like HRs, hits, etc, which people have forever used to compare players' careers. Nobody claims that Don Sutton is better than Bob Gibson because the former has more wins.

    That's not a fair criticism. It is a tool for comparison so the exact number doesn't matter as long as you use the same system to compare players.

    BB-ref explains the differences this way:

    Different parts of the stat can have different inputs, but all the choices are defensible. Look at the inputs and decide which ones you think make the better choices. In the end, though, the differences aren't that great.
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  7. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Girardi has Cubs written all over him
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  8. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    I don’t have an opinion of Girardi as a manager, but as a man I respect the hell out of him for the way he handled Darryl Kile’s death, telling the Wrigley crowd that the game wasn’t going to be played because of a tragedy in the Cardinals family.
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    They key word in the Baseballreference explanation is that it is an approximation. Also, your claim regarding picking and choosing whichever inputs you think are better supports my point. It is akin to manipulating statistics to fit your chosen narrative. That is a significant flaw. War is a manipulation of numbers that can be used to fit a possible narrative.
  10. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Where are the As bats?
  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Nothing worse than seeing a team do nothing on offense. Nine LOB. Ugh.
  12. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    A lot of it
    After a decade of chasing a title, the window had closed
    Upton was traded for peanuts because his agent inferred to Avila he would opt out
    Martinez reportedly turned down 4/$80M
    They had to pay the Astros $16M to take JV
    Plus they were still paying the Rangers $6M for Prince Fielder
    Zimmermann and Cabrera are the only big salaries left
    Kinsler would only accept a trade to the Angels
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