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2014 NCAA Tournament thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Mystery Meat II, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. Mystery Meat II

    Mystery Meat II Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    A gauntlet? Kentucky was falling apart heading into the tournament and if anything, they're a bit overseeded at 8 (presuming they even beat Kansas State in the first round, which is no sure thing whatsoever). Louisville is a dangerous 4, but they're not the only one. Acting like the "big boys" are out to get Wichita State is completely unprovable. I guess they have sent the Gonzaga-Oklahoma State winner there, but then people would complain because a) Oklahoma State's too good for their spot or b) a Gonzaga matchup is just more mid-on-mid violence.

    If they're one of the best teams in the country, they should have at least a puncher's chance.
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    Look it up, Sam. Duke (and North Carolina) have been opening up inside state lines since the 1979 tourney when they both got knocked out in North Carolina and the Elite Eight game Penn won was played to a crowd of about 4000. Now that the pod system is in place, it's an annual basis. And it stinks just as much for the other teams who get the break. Why should UCLA get San Diego, or Syracuse Buffalo? If the idea is fair competition, that is wrong. That's much more of a thumb on the scales than the actual seeds are. Duke's gone everywhere and played and won everywhere in the regular season for decades. They don't need the scheduling break they get -- opening up 10 miles from the campus. And I would hope that Raleigh is enough of a basketball town it wouldn't need an in-state school to sell tickets.
     
  3. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    Won't disagree with the basic premise, but I'll argue the politics isn't fractionally as ridiculous in Division I basketball as it is in Division I-A football.
     
  4. NDJournalist

    NDJournalist Active Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    How is that not a reasonable Final Four?
     
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    Wichita State
    Florida
    Sparty
    Creighton

    Wichita State over Florida.
     
  6. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
     
  7. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    If you don't know the answer to your last sentence, then you've already exposed your ignorance on the subject. I won't possibly claim that every seat will be filled for every sub-regional game in Raleigh, but that area lives and breathes college basketball.

    But the fact that you went after schools in this area shows your bias. Would you willing to say the same thing if BC or UMass (in a similar scenario … and Gene DeFilippo was a loon who was stupid to fire Al Skinner, but that's another argument) were playing in the Garden? Um, yeah …

    It isn't about being fair. The NCAA tournament was, is and will continue to be about money. Selling tickets. Drumming up interest. Sending teams most of the way across the country doesn't help ticket sales.

    I didn't say I agreed with it, but that's our current reality.
     
  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    The road of a No. 1 and No. 8 is exactly the same after the first two rounds. I think we'll agree Wichita State has an easier first-round draw than No. 8 Kentucky. After that, Kentucky gets a No. 1 seed -- Wichita State, while the Shockers get a 10-loss team that has lost five of its last 10.
     
  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    Not too late to turn on 30 for 30 "Requiem for the Big East". It's good.
     
  10. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    So far, so very good. John Thompson saying drastic things, Jim Boeheim deflating potential dramatization ...
     
  11. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    Louisville is a bitch of a #4 seed. They did pretty well in this thing last year, IIRC.
     
  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Re: 2014 NCAA Selection Sunday thread

    Sam, I covered two subregionals at the Garden, and no local teams were in either. This was before the pod system, mind you. They were complete sellouts for all games and I'm sure Raleigh will be, too. My point wasn't to diss Raleigh, it was to say the NCAA doesn't need the pod system to make money. It really has no other effect but skewing competitive balance. And it's hardly consistent. Why is four seed UCLA traveling to San Diego while fellow four seed Michigan State is headed to Spokane?
    PS: You are certainly right about firing Skinner. That was a completely brain-dead move.
     
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