UPDATE: ISU prez green lights chap... er, "life skills assistant" propsosal

[D-3 Fan]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

If I ran a public university, I'd keep myself a couple of hectares away from anything that has to do with the Fellowship of Christian Athletes -- Bill Bright's Trojan horse for wingnut Christianity.
Look, boys, there's a church. Go there and get right with god on your own time.

How many of them are actually going to head to a church? Not to give them an excuse, but with class, training, practice, games, and everything else, they are not going to spend Sunday morning, Wednesday or Friday nights driving around and find a church to track down a minister to talk to.

Yeah, they have practice, class, training, games and all that, but despite all that I'll bet they still find the time to hit whatever passes for a club in Ames, or the local McDonald's. I've never been to Ames, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to go far to find a church.

Newbie, the bars are part of the class schedule on an university campus.

Didn't you know that?

FB wants his six pack delivered to his house before he leaves the newsroom. Pronto!!!!

 

[Yawn]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

I don't think I've been mean and spiteful to "Christians" at all, being one myself.
I do object to a particular splinter sect of US Protestantism hijacking the word "Christian" for itself and for what I consider to be its solipsistic and elitist doctrine of personal salvation. And, if you bring it into the hurlyburly of political debate, don't expect it to be treated as any more sacred than a sheet full of poll numbers would be.

FenPhen thinks religion is a private matter, not to be ingrained into one's public life. In other words, be holy in the closet but don't you dare live it or proclaim it outside your house.

Weak.

 

[zeke12]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

Yes, again, I need to justify my religious beliefs to the village idiot.
And jimmymac asks the "Did you ever play the game?" question like he's a middle reliever wth an ERA over five who didn;t like a headline in that morning's paper.
Grow up.
And D-3 -- tthere is nothing more elitist than claiming you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus Christ, which is why Catholics reject the whole doctirne.

Okay. I'm not well versed in the Catholism perspective, only having a Baptist and a wannabe-Lutheran POV. With that said, I do see your point with that angle.

It really shouldn't be such a hot topic, but there isn't shirt interesting here in Iowa, except Joe Biden ad-libbing to the Register editorial board. But, Iowa State put themselves in this predicament. Let them figure it out.

Hey, I like Iowa. Especially in the fall.
Nice putaway, zeke.

 

[zagoshe]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

One again Mr. mushhead takes a passage of scripture completely out of context and tries to apply it to make an asinine point while justifying his anti-christian bias without fully understanding it or what Jesus was speaking about in said passage.

And of course he is cheered on by the left-wing's model of "Tolerance and Enlightment," the Fenian biscuit, who a few posts earlier was trying to explain that he isn't hateful, spiteful or bigoted against all Christians, just Evangelicals and those who consider themselves to be born again.

I'll repeat it again, if anyone on these threads offered similar sentiments about homosexuals, Fenian and Zeke and a whole bunch of other politically correct whiny assholes would be slobbering all over themselves to find new ways to say "hatemonger, bigots, homophobes, vitrol-spewing, mean-spirited" and every other code word lefties use for every person who isn't politically correct, doesn't agree with their version of how the world should turn and therefore needs to be put on the defensive by throwing out labels that they've so demonized that nobody, even the most extremists don't want to wear them.

You can veil it any way you want, split every hair you want, use all the little cutsey phrases you want -- it is still hypocrisy of the highest order.

 

[zeke12]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

I quoted the Bible.

What other "sentiments" have upset you?

 

[D-3 Fan]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

At the start of this, I asked for an opinion on this topic, not a breakdown on the interpretation of how we read The Good Book. Stay on the topic, kids and leave the scriptures out of this.

Go in peace, go and out and inform the readers.

Thanks be to SportsJournalists.com.

 

[zeke12]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

And also to you, D-3.

 

[Yawn]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

Alert: Fenian and Zeke just got their own Hollywood star.....

 

[jimmymcd]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

D-3:
Despite my personal beliefs, I can say that this is a pretty inappropriate move by Chizik. It's a state school, and more importantly in a team sport, it could create rifts between players, staff, or both. Stick with having FCA, local churches, etc. available for those who feel the need.

 

[D-3 Fan]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

And also to you, D-3.

Amen. (Whether that was shot back at me or not. 'Tis better to turn the other cheek and let karma takes its course).

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Re: Iowa State football to consider hiring a chaplain

The effect of politicized splinter Protestantism on the political and cultural life of this country has been an almost universally bad one over the past 20 years. It has been a vehicle for intolerance and ignorance. Its political involvement has been every bit as divisive and destructive as the Founders feared it would be, not least by hijacking the word "Christian," as though there were one single Christian position on anything. (There isn't even one single Christian position on Jesus Christ and his church, let alone on the various secular issues.) I am sorry this is the case, because I know quite a few people who have found comfort and direction in its doctrines, which I cannot accept. But to disagree -- however vehemently -- with its political medling and social vandalism is not to do anything more than one's duty as a citizen. If the various Christians do the meddling, they should expect it, or stay out of the kitchen, and not go whimpering behind the "discrimination" card in the most thickly churched country on the planet. You want to see P.C.? Write anything about an athlete's "faith" that isn't treacle, and watch the letters roll in.
An zeke quoted the Scripture in its proper context. We have a lot of Pharisees these days.