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March Madness -- White House-style

PopeDirkBenedict

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Here is March Madness, presidential-style. I used Wikipedia's average historical ranking and put into a 42-team tournament. Here is your field.

EAST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 32 Richard Nixon vs. No. 33 James A. Garfield
No. 24 Rutherford B. Hayes v. No. 41 James Buchanan
No. 25 George H.W. Bush v. No. 40 Franklin Pierce
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No. 1 Abraham Lincoln vs. Nixon/Garfield winner
No. 16 James Monroe v. No. 17 Grover Cleveland
No. 9 Dwight Eisenhower v. Hayes/Buchanan winner
No. 8 Andrew Jackson v. GHWB/Pierce winner

MIDWEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 29 Herbert Hoover v. No. 36 Millard Fillmore
No. 28 Gerald Ford v. No. 37 Ulysses S. Grant
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No. 4 Thomas Jefferson v. Hoover/Fillmore winner
No. 13 James Madison v. No. 20 William Howard Taft
No. 12 John F. Kennedy v. No. 21 Bill Clinton
No. 5 Theodore Roosevelt v. Ford/Grant winner

SOUTH REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 31 Calvin Coolidge v. No. 34 Zachary Taylor
No. 23 Martin Van Buren v. No. 42 Warren Harding
No. 26 Chester Arthur v. No. 39 Andrew Johnson
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No. 2 Franklin Roosevelt v. Coolidge/Taylor winner
No. 15 Ronald Reagan v. No. 18 William McKinley
No. 10 James K. Polk v. Van Buren/Harding winner
No. 7 Harry Truman v. Arthur/A. Johnson winner

WEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 30 Benjamin Harrison v. No. 35 John Tyler
No. 27 Jimmy Carter v. No. 38 William Henry Harrison
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No. 3 George Washington v. Harrison/Tyler winner
No. 14 Lyndon Johnson v. No. 19 John Quincy Adams
No. 11 John Adams v. No. 22 George W. Bush
No. 6 Woodrow Wilson v. Ford/Harrison winner
 
No. 11 John Adams v. No. 22 George W. Bush

Are you forking kidding me? I knew wikipedia was forked up, but holy ship.
 
If we are going to vote on this, then you either need to vote in the thread or via PM for the decidedly unsexy play-in games.

EAST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 32 Richard Nixon vs. No. 33 James A. Garfield
No. 24 Rutherford B. Hayes v. No. 41 James Buchanan
No. 25 George H.W. Bush v. No. 40 Franklin Pierce

MIDWEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 29 Herbert Hoover v. No. 36 Millard Fillmore
No. 28 Gerald Ford v. No. 37 Ulysses S. Grant

SOUTH REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 31 Calvin Coolidge v. No. 34 Zachary Taylor
No. 23 Martin Van Buren v. No. 42 Warren Harding
No. 26 Chester Arthur v. No. 39 Andrew Johnson

WEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 30 Benjamin Harrison v. No. 35 John Tyler
No. 27 Jimmy Carter v. No. 38 William Henry Harrison
 
Hoover at 29 and Nixon at 32... interesting

And let me suggest voting for the playin games first, before the second round games...rather than all at once
 
Clever username said:
No. 11 John Adams v. No. 22 George W. Bush

Are you forking kidding me? I knew wikipedia was forked up, but holy ship.

They use the average ranking. They have GWB ranked twice -- ranked 23rd in in 2002 by Siena, ranked 19th in 2005 by the Wall Street Journal, giving him an average ranking of 21, the 22nd best.

Look at this and then it will make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents
 
PopeDirkBenedict said:
Clever username said:
No. 11 John Adams v. No. 22 George W. Bush

Are you forking kidding me? I knew wikipedia was forked up, but holy ship.

They use the average ranking. They have GWB ranked twice -- ranked 23rd in in 2002 by Siena, ranked 19th in 2005 by the Wall Street Journal, giving him an average ranking of 21, the 22nd best.

Look at this and then it will make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents
Dubya higher than a 35 doesnt make sense, but if you're going to use wikipedia's rankings instead of your own seeding or by committee, you have to... but Clinton behind Dubya? Day-um... a hummer is worse than war..
 
I looked at it as being similiar to SportsJournalists.com March Madness -- using total posts doesn't come close to quantifying quality of posters, but is as good of an arbitrary way of seeding as we had. Doing it by committee would be darn near impossible -- there would be no way to come to a consensus and trying to seed W might have brought everyone to blows. So I went with the best ranking system I had.

I have no doubt that John Adams will easily move into the Sweet Sixteen.
 
EAST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 32 Richard Nixon vs. No. 33 James A. Garfield
No. 24 Rutherford B. Hayes v. No. 41 James Buchanan
No. 25 George H.W. Bush v. No. 40 Franklin Pierce

MIDWEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 29 Herbert Hoover v. No. 36 Millard Fillmore
No. 28 Gerald Ford v. No. 37 Ulysses S. Grant

SOUTH REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 31 Calvin Coolidge v. No. 34 Zachary Taylor
No. 23 Martin Van Buren v. No. 42 Warren Harding
No. 26 Chester Arthur v. No. 39 Andrew Johnson

WEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 30 Benjamin Harrison v. No. 35 John Tyler
No. 27 Jimmy Carter v. No. 38 William Henry Harrison
 
I am only voting for play-in games presently, if I need to do different let me know.

EAST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 32 Richard Nixon vs. No. 33 James A. Garfield
No. 24 Rutherford B. Hayes v. No. 41 James Buchanan
No. 25 George H.W. Bush v. No. 40 Franklin Pierce

MIDWEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 29 Herbert Hoover v. No. 36 Millard Fillmore
No. 28 Gerald Ford v. No. 37 Ulysses S. Grant

SOUTH REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 31 Calvin Coolidge v. No. 34 Zachary Taylor
No. 23 Martin Van Buren v. No. 42 Warren Harding
No. 26 Chester Arthur v. No. 39 Andrew Johnson

WEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 30 Benjamin Harrison v. No. 35 John Tyler
No. 27 Jimmy Carter v. No. 38 William Henry Harrison
 
EAST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 32 Richard Nixon vs. No. 33 James A. Garfield
No. 24 Rutherford B. Hayes v. No. 41 James Buchanan
No. 25 George H.W. Bush v. No. 40 Franklin Pierce

MIDWEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 29 Herbert Hoover v. No. 36 Millard Fillmore
No. 28 Gerald Ford v. No. 37 Ulysses S. Grant

SOUTH REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 31 Calvin Coolidge v. No. 34 Zachary Taylor
No. 23 Martin Van Buren v. No. 42 Warren Harding
No. 26 Chester Arthur v. No. 39 Andrew Johnson

WEST REGIONAL
Play-in games
No. 30 Benjamin Harrison v. No. 35 John Tyler
No. 27 Jimmy Carter v. No. 38 William Henry Harrison

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