BBQ vs. Cheesesteaks: Super Bowl LIX thread

[DanOregon]

It's always been true about line play - always thought it would be good for the game if there was a "cap" or something to allow teams to keep o-lines together longer, it would help out QBs. Instead you see teams trying to plug in people and hope they work out.

One last ad note - thought it was hilarious that they ran the anti-obesity ad in the 3rd quarter after people watching on TV have been gorging themselves for three hours.

 

[sgreenwell]

My takeaway from last night is this: There's been a lot of talk over the years about QBs, WRs, RPO, and modern offenses changing the game.

But at a fundamental level, the most important part of the game remains line play. If your OLine can constantly reset the LOS down the field, you can do a lot more on offense. And if your DLine can generate pressure and stop the run with minimal numbers on the box, pass defense gets a lot easier.

Everything else should be secondary when building a team.

I don't disagree, but it's also pretty clear that most NFL front offices realize this too. Players designated specifically as left tackles are second in average salary only to QBs. (Depending on how you slice it, the average can even be higher, like if you only count guys that were drafted or signed as FA as left tackles, vs. a RT or guard shifting over to the position because of an injury.) Right behind them are defensive ends, nose tackles and offensive linemen. You can still draft some decent offensive linemen late, because of how much "???" is involved in evaluating the position, but it's tougher with defensive linemen. And if you don't get them in the draft, you're paying heavily for them in free agency.

 

[qtlaw]

I don't disagree, but it's also pretty clear that most NFL front offices realize this too. Players designated specifically as left tackles are second in average salary only to QBs. (Depending on how you slice it, the average can even be higher, like if you only count guys that were drafted or signed as FA as left tackles, vs. a RT or guard shifting over to the position because of an injury.) Right behind them are defensive ends, nose tackles and offensive linemen. You can still draft some decent offensive linemen late, because of how much "???" is involved in evaluating the position, but it's tougher with defensive linemen. And if you don't get them in the draft, you're paying heavily for them in free agency.

Philly did some awesome drafting,

risky pick of Jalen Carter when he dropped to 9 (he's a beast);
Jordan Davis from UGA as well in a middle round (2nd? or 3rd?);
that Milton guy from LA Tech;
Nolan Smith from UGA too right?
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Meanwhile my 49ers continue to whiff on picks (Drake Jackson in 2nd, nada).

Then on the O Line, Mailata, Jergens, Dickerson, Becton, none were high draft picks or big $$ free agents.

Props to them.

 

[DanOregon]

Becton WAS a first round bust for the Jets. Amazing how many first round busts the Jets have who flourish as soon as they leave.

 

[qtlaw]

Becton WAS a first round bust for the Jets. Amazing how many first round busts the Jets have who flourish as soon as they leave.

I meant not a 1st made by the Eagles.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Those were bootcut jeans, not bellbottoms. And they've been popular in youth culture for two years now. My college wardrobe from 2005 can be taken out of storage.

I defer to a fashion and style reporter at the NYT.

"As does the matter of whether they were more boot-cut or bell-bottomed. (I'd lean toward calling them Woodstock-tinged bell bottoms. The flare was pretty flarey.)"

Kendrick Lamar's Bell Bottoms Steal the Super Bowl Halftime Show

 

[Batman]

When Kenny Pickett was the first quarterback off the board in the 2022 draft, we always knew he'd some day be taking a victory formation snap to clinch a Super Bowl victory.

 

[outofplace]

When Kenny Pickett was the first quarterback off the board in the 2022 draft, we always knew he'd some day be taking a victory formation snap to clinch a Super Bowl victory.

There are some salty Steelers fans who were not happy about this. The team did a nice job painting the dubious narrative that Pickett ran from competition when they signed Wilson when the truth is the Steelers couldn't have screwed up more from the moment they drafted him until the moment they traded him.

He probably had that very dream as a kid. He was an Eagles fan.

 

[micropolitan guy]

The Rocket Morgage "Country Roads" commercial was one of the favorites of the group at the dog park today. Of course, as has been pointed out numerous times, neither the Blue Ridge Mountains nor the Shenandoah River are in West Virginia. (As a former resident of the Commonwealth, I still cringe when people pronounce it the Shannondoah River or the Shannondoah Valley).

John Denver, good at songwriting, but bad at geography.

 

[da man]

The Rocket Morgage "Country Roads" commercial was one of the favorites of the group at the dog park today. Of course, as has been pointed out numerous times, neither the Blue Ridge Mountains nor the Shenandoah River are in West Virginia. (As a former resident of the Commonwealth, I still cringe when people pronounce it the Shannondoah River or the Shannondoah Valley).

John Denver, good at songwriting, but bad at geography.

College sports has become terrible at geography.

 

[BTExpress]

Blue Ridge mountains touch the northeast corner of West Virginia to eke into Pennsylvania.

Shenandoah River's final stretch flows through that same part of West Virginia.

 

[Cosmo]

Shenandoah flows north and empties into the Potomac at Harpers Ferry. So yes, it does go through West Virginia.