A friend's dilemma inspires this...

[ADifferentOkie]

Clarify. How much time passed between her leaving and him cheating?

If it was that same night they should just end the forking relationship. If it was two months then you tell her ...

He didn't cheat. heck, Clinton had "oral sex". Kissing is not oral sex. And it was THAT NIGHT....and remember in his defense the shock of being stunned with leaving over her own lies about some other issues started it.

Wonder who's forking side you're on : ... he cheated. He's married. You don't kiss other women, no matter how bad things forking get.

My wife took the kid once and went to her dad's because she was mad. Nothing too severe. Just tired of arguing with me. Nothing broken. No infidelity. Just mad. She came back the next day. There've been times when I walked out ... around the block. It's called cooling off.

We still love each other and everything's good. shirt happens. I sure as heck didn't go look up the first chick I could find ...

I've been completely loyal to my wife since our first date. I would never kiss another woman, much less touch or screw them.
But I don't think I'd call kissing someone "cheating." It's wrong, but cheating, to me, conveys a much more serious transgression.

 

[Write-brained]

6 months? Why waste time, they're done now.
Just get it over with.

Honestly? Doesn't matter. They'll be divorced within 6 months either way.

And they should be.

Wow. Ya'll are quick to judge. Plenty of people have big fights. Plenty of people screw up, make bad decisions. There is such a thing as forgiveness.

My wife and I have big fights, Sxy, but it's not because we lied to one another or because one of us was kissing someone else. There's some inherent problems here.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

6 months? Why waste time, they're done now.
Just get it over with.

Honestly? Doesn't matter. They'll be divorced within 6 months either way.

And they should be.

Wow. Ya'll are quick to judge. Plenty of people have big fights. Plenty of people screw up, make bad decisions. There is such a thing as forgiveness.

There is also such a thing as being too immature to maintain a relationship.

She lies to him repeatedly them leaves town in the middle of the night; he responds by making out with some chick he knows.

They're done. Forgiveness is one thing; being married to a dipshirt is something else entirely.

 

[Write-brained]

Clarify. How much time passed between her leaving and him cheating?

If it was that same night they should just end the forking relationship. If it was two months then you tell her ...

He didn't cheat. heck, Clinton had "oral sex". Kissing is not oral sex. And it was THAT NIGHT....and remember in his defense the shock of being stunned with leaving over her own lies about some other issues started it.

Wonder who's forking side you're on : ... he cheated. He's married. You don't kiss other women, no matter how bad things forking get.

My wife took the kid once and went to her dad's because she was mad. Nothing too severe. Just tired of arguing with me. Nothing broken. No infidelity. Just mad. She came back the next day. There've been times when I walked out ... around the block. It's called cooling off.

We still love each other and everything's good. shirt happens. I sure as heck didn't go look up the first chick I could find ...

I've been completely loyal to my wife since our first date. I would never kiss another woman, much less touch or screw them.
But I don't think I'd call kissing someone "cheating." It's wrong, but cheating, to me, conveys a much more serious transgression.

We disagree on this and that's fine. I think it's cheating. Cheating had I done it; cheating had my wife done it. I don't think there's a difference between "transgressions." It's not where your deck is, it's where your heart is.

 

[Sxysprtswrtr]

But, according to printdust, this guy got "shirtfaced" ... though it's certainly not right -- alcohol distorts one's thinking and decision-making.
So kissing and petting ONE time, when under the influence of lots of alcohol shows bad decision-making, and not necessarily the fact his heart isn't with his wife.

Again, I'm not excusing the actions - just saying just because you get drunk and kiss a girl doesn't mean your heart isn't with someone else.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Again, I'm not excusing the actions - just saying just because you get drunk and kiss a girl doesn't mean your heart isn't with someone else.

Once you are married? Yeah, it pretty much does.

 

[pallister]

It's not where your deck is, it's where your heart is.

That is both profound and hilarious at the same time.

 

[Write-brained]

But, according to printdust, this guy got "shirtfaced" ... though it's certainly not right -- alcohol distorts one's thinking and decision-making.
So kissing and petting ONE time, when under the influence of lots of alcohol shows bad decision-making, and not necessarily the fact his heart isn't with his wife.

Again, I'm not excusing the actions - just saying just because you get drunk and kiss a girl doesn't mean your heart isn't with someone else.

And I'm not saying it's not forgivable. I just don't see the point from what I know of this relationship. You get shirt-faced over a major fight and end up with another woman?

Sometimes it's just best to cut your losses. Neither party sounds very mature.

 

[ifilus]

It's not where your deck is, it's where your heart is.

That is both profound and hilarious at the same time.

So if the deck is there and the heart is still at home...then its all good.
Right?

 

[Write-brained]

It's not where your deck is, it's where your heart is.

That is both profound and hilarious at the same time.

So if the deck is there and the heart is still at home...then its all good.
Right?

You mean: Home is where the deck is? Absolutely. I think. ;D

 

[printdust]

Clarify. How much time passed between her leaving and him cheating?

If it was that same night they should just end the forking relationship. If it was two months then you tell her ...

He didn't cheat. heck, Clinton had "oral sex". Kissing is not oral sex. And it was THAT NIGHT....and remember in his defense the shock of being stunned with leaving over her own lies about some other issues started it.

Wonder who's forking side you're on : ... he cheated. He's married. You don't kiss other women, no matter how bad things forking get.

My wife took the kid once and went to her dad's because she was mad. Nothing too severe. Just tired of arguing with me. Nothing broken. No infidelity. Just mad. She came back the next day. There've been times when I walked out ... around the block. It's called cooling off.

We still love each other and everything's good. shirt happens. I sure as heck didn't go look up the first chick I could find ...

I've been completely loyal to my wife since our first date. I would never kiss another woman, much less touch or screw them.
But I don't think I'd call kissing someone "cheating." It's wrong, but cheating, to me, conveys a much more serious transgression.

I myself have learned a lesson here. Never say never. You NEVER know what might happen down your path. Not saying you would, but just the declaration alone can curse you.

I wouldn't agree with the cut-and-run theories. heck, anything can be forgiven...one of the hardest things to live out in matrimony, but nonetheless possible.

 

[printdust]

6 months? Why waste time, they're done now.
Just get it over with.

Honestly? Doesn't matter. They'll be divorced within 6 months either way.

And they should be.

Wow. Ya'll are quick to judge. Plenty of people have big fights. Plenty of people screw up, make bad decisions. There is such a thing as forgiveness.

There is also such a thing as being too immature to maintain a relationship.

She lies to him repeatedly them leaves town in the middle of the night; he responds by making out with some chick he knows.

They're done. Forgiveness is one thing; being married to a dipshirt is something else entirely.

Who in this case is the dipshirt?