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The thread wasn't exactly sitting out there in the noonday sun, Zeke. If you're determined not to give them credit for anything, then this is a pointless exercise. Let's just agree to disagree on this, and let's just agree to agree on Zevon. Besides, I didn't come on here to defend Gawker. I...

Zeke - this count? http://gawker.com/5897485/ Unless I'm reading it wrong, that's their SCOOP. Not an insignificant one either. Also: You've got your Zevon wrong. The sonofabitch Van Owen is in Mombassa. I'm in Palestine and Berkeley. I'm guessing Gawker writers are somewhere in the last...

Weinreb's one of the good 'uns. His Len Bias story a few years back - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=bias - was smart and nuanced and everything ESPN.com usually isn't. (Apologies if we're supposed to be discussing this in the other thread.)

Let me rephrase. I do not believe the site is the wasteland that Big Ragu describes. Maybe I'm not up on my Huffpo, but last I looked, it was aggregation + celebrity op-eds, with a little Sam Stein thrown in. If there's ever been a decent turn of phrase committed to print over there, I haven't...

I think there's enough evidence out there, all of it provided by Pos himself, that it's not going to be a prodigy of fearless truth-telling. That spiel he gave that PSU sportswriting class would've embarrassed Ron Ziegler.

You keep saying this thing about the clicks. So I looked it up. http://www.niemanlab.org/2012/03/i-cant-stop-reading-this-analysis-of-gawkers-editorial-strategy/ "While that writer struggles to find dancing cat videos and Burger King bathroom fights or any other post they feel will add those...

Harsh. It never bothered me until Paterno, and only there because he seemed so caught up in the cult of personality that he didn't realize he actually had a BETTER book on his hands.

Are you saying this because you're familiar with Cook's work and find it wanting? Or are you saying this because it's easier to call him a moral monster than to acknowledge that maybe he's in the same line of work that you are? (It's funny, BTW, to watch people - Jones included - treat the...

E.g. http://gawker.com/5824413/gawker-v-christie Cook did time at the Chicago Tribune too, if I'm not mistaken. (That's where I first saw his byline, at least.) I mention it because I really do hate whenever our sour little inner Murray Chasses come out to slime anyone working in...

Also: One thing about the Gawker item. Isn't it obvious that Cook brought up Jones' family to make the point (however coarsely) that Jones has, um, absented himself from the fleshly marketplace for the last however many years? And that maybe he's not the most qualified guy on earth to comment on...

I feel like deliberately insulting half the human population falls somewhere within the bounds of "trolly," don't you?

OK, I came out of my hiding place for this. Quick answer? Jones' story was every last bit as trolly as anything Gawker throws up, and he got the rise out of people that he, or at least Esquire, wanted. The piece was stupid and fat-headed and absolutely aching to be mocked, and if he weren't such...