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Words we never need

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by inthesuburbs, Mar 17, 2018.

  1. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    "very"
     
  2. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    I seem to recall within the past year someone on SJ making a technical argument over the use of murder, as opposed to manslaughter, based on the legal meanings of such terms. I thought that was what the poster meant by listing murder in this thread.
     
  3. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    They never slowly take somebody to a faraway hospital.
     
  4. TyWebb

    TyWebb Well-Known Member

    By bicycle.
     
  5. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Maybe by cart?

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  6. HandsomeHarley

    HandsomeHarley Well-Known Member

    Reminds me of my first sportswriting gig 20 years ago, when some lady called and reamed me out because I wrote, "... gunned down at the plate."
     
  7. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    There is no murder until you have a conviction or a plea in court. You can be charged with murder, but until there's a conviction, don't write someone was murdered. They were killed.
     
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  8. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    How is this different than any other need for "allegedly"?
     
  9. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    In order, as in the "in order to" construction.

    I just cut that mostly every time I see it.
     
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  10. Bronco77

    Bronco77 Well-Known Member

    I normally don't like editing quotes, but if a reporter quotes someone as saying "gonna" for "going to" or "gotta" for "got to," I'll generally change it unless it's a lengthy centerpiece-type profile and the precise quotes add to the tone of the story. No reason to leave those in if it's a garden-variety game story or advance. This was another sensible Craig Stanke ruling from years ago.

    A reporter at my former shop (which also frowned upon using "gonna" and "gotta" in the company stylebook) used these "words" constantly, and I got some pushback from one of his editors about changing it -- "It's how these guys talk." Maybe so, but that doesn't mean it's good English.
     
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  11. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    I'm with MileHigh on "that." Most of the time it's an extra word that's not needed.

    I'm also tired of people using it (instead of "who") to describe people: "MileHigh is a moderator that likes the Broncos." Grrrr ...
     
  12. HandsomeHarley

    HandsomeHarley Well-Known Member

    The first lesson I learned in journalism at college was never use "gonna."

    There are tons of variations, especially in today's vernacular: "Know what I'm sayin'?" ... "I mean ... " to start out a quote ... "..., man."
     
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