woman attacked on subway platform, workers basically do nothing

either one just might kill/hurt you. like I said - maybe it's just me. but I couldn't sit and just wait it out, hoping for the best when clearly that isn't what's happening.

 

agreed.

and I guess I'm not saying that these workers should be held accountable by the law -- but I am saying that they should have felt compelled by something other than what the subway worker rule book says you've got to do in an emergency situation. I just can't fathom being able to sit there for 10 minutes, knowing a woman is being brutalized, and going about my daily routine. I couldn't do it.

 

The workers notified the proper authorites. You know, the guys sworn to protect and serve.

 

I also may or may not feel different when someone I love gets themselves killed trying to be a hero.

The "what if it was someone you loved" argument is always a bit weird to me. Why are we appealing to the people who can look at the situation the least rationally?

 

yes, they did. they did the bare minimum, evil. kudos to them. and if they can live with that, fantastic. personally, I wouldn't be able to.

like the woman said - even getting onto the subway's pa system would be something. this guy didn't know anyone pushed a big button - he, I'm sure, figured these guys were too afraid to do anything and just ignored what was happening. maybe if he knows cops are on the way, he splits.

 

I'm not applauding them.. I'm just saying you shouldn't look down on them.
If this helps you - (insert manly-hero voice here) I wouldn't stand for that!! - then kudos to you sir.

Have you ever been to NY and listened the PA system?

I don't think the rapist gave two shits about whether the cops were on the way. Wouldn't, if someone sees you raping a woman, you assume they are probably calling cops and they might headed to you know stop you?

 

You see, now that is just not true.
They did make an effort to help her - just not a good enough effort in your judgement.
No effort means they wouldn't have bothered to push the button. That wasn't the case.

 

I have no problem with anybody looking down at these guys. Standing by and doing as little as possible as led to horrendous things in our past. And defending their inaction, esp. when there were options that would not have put their lives at risk, says a lot about the type of person you are, least to me.

 

Real easy to say when you weren't actually in their shoes. You can talk all you want about what you would have done, and that's all it will ever be. Hell, I can sit here and say I wouldn't have tried to intervene myself, and believe it, and maybe if I were actually put in that situation I would spring to action. Neither of us is lying, but we both might be wrong. Better not to judge unless there is concrete evidence.

 

sure - and he saw two people who essentially ignored him and the situation, as far as he knew. and he didn't care if cops were on the way? really? the guy did bolt soon as they showed up, of course, so if he heard they were seconds away, maybe it helps. maybe it doesn't, but it would have been an attempt to be proactive, rather than just letting it happen.

maybe not an exact match here -- I'm tired, so give me a little lee-way -- but their "effort" here would have been something like a baseball player walking into the batter's box and standing there as three strikes whizzed down the center, never moving his bat, never taking it off his shoulder. he did what he was required to - he went up for his turn at bat. maybe he gets hit by a pitch. maybe the pitcher screws up and walks him. didn't happen. struck out watching. but, kudos to him, he stepped into that box. he never swung, but he sure hoped for the best.