Why Wrigley Field should be destroyed

Hank_Scorpio · May 15, 2012

I Should Coco said:

If you want to see a team that (occasionally) wins, drive eight miles south!
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Yea, you can drive past and see a seven-year old banner that the White Sox proudly fly as if they won it yesterday.

YGBFKM · May 15, 2012

Seven years is yesterday when compared to a century-plus.

Ben_Hecht · May 15, 2012

More reasons to fail: too many day home games in a sizzling, humid ball park in July/August, and the comfort zone afforded by the adoring.

Mark2010 · May 15, 2012

If the Cubs were actually decent for any extended period of time, it wouldn't be nearly as much to make jokes about them.

But, yeah, Wrigley Field and Fenway Park and all the other pre-WWII parks should be nuked as soon as possible.

Uncle.Ruckus · May 15, 2012

I'm surprised The Man lets you watch baseball, what with your precarious legal status and all.

Bodie_Broadus · May 15, 2012

Mark2010 said:

If the Cubs were actually decent for any extended period of time, it wouldn't be nearly as much to make jokes about them.

But, yeah, Wrigley Field and Fenway Park and all the other pre-WWII parks should be nuked as soon as possible.
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I think those are the only two.

After that isn't Dodger Stadium the oldest?

Armchair_QB · May 15, 2012

93Devil said:

Bob Cook said:

Actually, what I would like to see talked about more is the point Andy MacPhail brought up in the story -- that because of the weather conditions at Wrigley, you can't build a team for the home park, because one day balls might be flying out of there, and another day they're lazy flies that stay in the park. That hurts building your pitching, too. Though you can't blame weather conditions for whatever the hell happened to Carlos Marmol.
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Bullshit

If you keep five outfielders, have two big boppers who make decent contact and two be speed guys. Platoon to the conditions of the day. Do the same with two utility guys.

For the pitchers, strikeout guys do well in any conditions. If they cannot hit the ball, it does not matter what the wind is doing.

That field should be to their advantage, not their disadvantage.
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Beat me to it. Though I probably would have stopped at "Bullshit."

MacPhail's statement was nothing more than a transparent attempt to cover for the fact that with all the resources he had at his disposal he fucking sucked as a team president and then compounded that fact by hiring fucking idiots like Ed Lynch run the fucking team.

I've been following this team for damn near 40 years and this is the first time I can remember them actually embarking on a rebuilding program.

YGBFKM · May 15, 2012

Uncle.Ruckus said:

I'm surprised The Man lets you watch baseball, what with your precarious legal status and all.
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Actually, watching the Cubs is part of his punishment.

RickStain · May 15, 2012

Armchair_QB said:

93Devil said:

Bob Cook said:

Actually, what I would like to see talked about more is the point Andy MacPhail brought up in the story -- that because of the weather conditions at Wrigley, you can't build a team for the home park, because one day balls might be flying out of there, and another day they're lazy flies that stay in the park. That hurts building your pitching, too. Though you can't blame weather conditions for whatever the hell happened to Carlos Marmol.
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Bullshit

If you keep five outfielders, have two big boppers who make decent contact and two be speed guys. Platoon to the conditions of the day. Do the same with two utility guys.

For the pitchers, strikeout guys do well in any conditions. If they cannot hit the ball, it does not matter what the wind is doing.

That field should be to their advantage, not their disadvantage.
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Beat me to it. Though I probably would have stopped at "Bullshit."

MacPhail's statement was nothing more than a transparent attempt to cover for the fact that with all the resources he had at his disposal he fucking sucked as a team president and then compounded that fact by hiring fucking idiots like Ed Lynch run the fucking team.

I've been following this team for damn near 40 years and this is the first time I can remember them actually embarking on a rebuilding program.
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Theo Epstein hasn't done or planned anything that Andy MacPhail didn't do when he took over. He's just hopefully going to be better at it.

buckweaver · May 17, 2012

Michael_ Gee said:

Wrigley Field is the Cubs' biggest and this season only gate attraction. It's WHY the franchise is valuable. Getting rid of it would be financial insanity. The Red Sox owners came to that realization about Fenway long ago.
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If by "long ago", you mean "in the late 1990s after they failed, again, to strong-arm the city into building them a new stadium", then sure.

Consider:

http://sabr.org/latest/construction-background-helped-stout-write-seymour-medal-winning-fenway-1912

Stout said he tried hard not to "over-romanticize" Fenway Park in his book. After all, the stadium wasn't considered a Boston treasure for most of its first half-century; at various times, he wrote, it could more accurately be described as "a dump". Plans for a new ballpark were floated by Red Sox owners in the early 1960s and again in the mid-1990s, but nothing came to fruition.

"It's almost an accident that Fenway still exists," said Stout, who lived within walking distance of Fenway for many years and now resides in Vermont. "If anyone had considered it a special place in 1912, it wouldn't have been preserved at all. It would have fallen down. But one of the reasons it still exists is because they kept on changing it when they needed to.”
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apeman33 · May 17, 2012

Bodie_Broadus said:

Mark2010 said:

If the Cubs were actually decent for any extended period of time, it wouldn't be nearly as much to make jokes about them.

But, yeah, Wrigley Field and Fenway Park and all the other pre-WWII parks should be nuked as soon as possible.
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I think those are the only two.

After that isn't Dodger Stadium the oldest?
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Yup.

Fenway, 1912
Wrigley, 1914
Dodger Stadium, 1962
Angel Stadium, 1966
Oakland whatever it's called right now, 1966
Kauffman Stadium, 1973
Rogers Centre, 1989

Who'd think that Rogers Center is the seventh-oldest stadium in the majors?

Eighth oldest? The Trop. No. Really.

Ben_Hecht · May 17, 2012

buckweaver said:

Michael_ Gee said:

Wrigley Field is the Cubs' biggest and this season only gate attraction. It's WHY the franchise is valuable. Getting rid of it would be financial insanity. The Red Sox owners came to that realization about Fenway long ago.
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If by "long ago", you mean "in the late 1990s after they failed, again, to strong-arm the city into building them a new stadium", then sure.

Consider:

http://sabr.org/latest/construction-background-helped-stout-write-seymour-medal-winning-fenway-1912

Stout said he tried hard not to "over-romanticize" Fenway Park in his book. After all, the stadium wasn't considered a Boston treasure for most of its first half-century; at various times, he wrote, it could more accurately be described as "a dump". Plans for a new ballpark were floated by Red Sox owners in the early 1960s and again in the mid-1990s, but nothing came to fruition.

"It's almost an accident that Fenway still exists," said Stout, who lived within walking distance of Fenway for many years and now resides in Vermont. "If anyone had considered it a special place in 1912, it wouldn't have been preserved at all. It would have fallen down. But one of the reasons it still exists is because they kept on changing it when they needed to.
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I could make a really nasty comment about Boston, here, but I'll resist. Kumbaya.

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