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What's happening to that "consensus" on global warming?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by old_tony, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

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  2. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    I for one appreciate my pal Ragu's responses. I could give a shit about its length if it's informative and/or entertaining.

    And all the world's most condescending international prick does is come in and bitch about something with substance, which is too often few and far between on this site. To paraphrase someone else, we have JR JR the message board czar.

    Anyway, the one thing this democratic led congress has sone repeatedly is fail the American people this year. Yes, much fault can be placed with the minorit party's obstructionist ways. But on certain things, like the farm bill, war funding, and other issues, Democrats have been all bluster and no substance. Both parties suck, frankly.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It has nothing to do with the New Yorker piece. Obama spearheaded the protectionist movement that supported preserving the tariff. He was one of the five Senators who wrote the letter to Bush opposing doing away with the tariff and signed his name to it. As far as I know he doesn't take money directly from ADM (leading producer of corn-based ethanol), but he does take soft money from related lobbyists. And before he got all the bad press for accepting flights on corporate planes, one of the private jets he used to get around was owned by ADM.

    The unflattering Harper's piece on Obama from last year sort of touched on all of this. And while about Obama and hard on him in particular, a conclusion of the article was that it is so expensive to get elected Senator that candidates are a reflection of who is paying for their campaigns, not their future constituencies. Obama, being a young, new Senator, was a prime example of this.

    Of course his hand is in the cookie jar. He wouldn't be where he is today -- and making ridiculous national security arguments that state that we are safer beholden to middle east oil than we are to Brazilian ethanol -- unless he was getting greased to do it. There isn't a politician at that level who isn't similarly corrupt.
     
  4. JR

    JR Well-Known Member


    It's always nice when a so-called journalist stands up for a colleague's verbal diarrhea.

    Most of the time his posts are neither informative nor entertaining. He's a nagging shrew.


    You know, Ragu goes on and and on about something he knows dick about all the time-Canadian health care is an example.

    He should read Strunk & White. You know, to get those one thousand fucking words down to tow fifty.
     
  5. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    While I agree with you on his Canadian health care posts, JR, you're wrong here. His post exactly what a longer one should be, full of information. Ragu may be long-winded, but to claim that he's never informative or entertaining is just flat-out inaccurate.
     
  6. Trouser_Buddah

    Trouser_Buddah Active Member

    If Ragu's 'lengthy' response exposed him as knowing 'dick' about the topic of Brazilian ethanol, why didn't you call him out on that instead of bitching about something as petty as the length of his posts?

    If you don't like it (him), don't read it.

    Damn...
     
  7. GB-Hack

    GB-Hack Active Member

    While everyone debates Ragu's post lengths, the Polar Bears want to know;

    What about us?

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  8. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Another TV weatherguy isn't worried.

    New York's WABC-TV Senior Meteorologist Bill Evans, who has won the Outstanding Meteorologist Award from the National Weather Service and hosted the National Hurricane Conference, expressed man-made global warming skepticism in 2007. "There is climate change. The planet is warming. But we're coming off an ice age. So you would expect naturally the planet is warming," Evans said in an interview on Fox News Channel on August 19, 2007. "There's really no data to just show that man is causing the warming in the atmosphere or contributing to the mass of CO2 that's in the atmosphere. We are seeing changes in the planet, but the planet changes all the time," Evans said.

    Tony might have linked to the worst source of all time.
     
  9. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    I've noticed a stunning lack of paying attention to what is being said and worrying instead about who is saying it, Zeke. That's quite telling.
     
  10. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    This guy's an econ professor.

    Dr. Alex Robson, a professor in the School of Economics in the College of Business and Economics at the Australian National University and a former Economist at the Federal Treasury, ridiculed the notion of taking out an "insurance policy" against man-made global warming.

    More or less credibility than a TV weather guy? I report, you decide.
     
  11. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    So-called, huh? Don't you have some Nancy Drew books to stock? Ugh.
     
  12. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    This is almost too easy. So an insane meth-head can opine about global warming, and if it's a viewpoint you agree with, that's all that matters?

    Please think a bit before you type.
     
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