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What exactly is in that Fahrvergnugen, VW?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by murphyc, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  2. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    It's patently obvious that VW has a corporate structure based on cheating. If you purchase a VW (or an Audi) you are supporting that and associating yourself with a brand that's one of the most despicable on the planet.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    When I saw the thread revived, I though it was going to be about Herbert Diess saying "EBIT macht frei" at a company event earlier this week, and the justifiable reaction it got. Given the origination of the company, it really is one of the most tone deaf, and inexplicable, things a CEO has said in a while.
     
  4. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    What could possibly cause this thread to be bumped up after 2½ years?

    BRUSSELS, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Software Volkswagen AG (VOWG_p.DE) used to alter pollutant emissions based on the temperature and altitude is illegal unless it prevents potentially dangerous sudden damage to the engine, an adviser to the EU's top court said on Thursday.

    The finding, if confirmed by the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU), is the latest step in a series of cases following the German carmaker's 2015 admission of wrongdoing in the Dieselgate scandal.

    Judges at the CJEU typically follow opinions of the advocate general, but are not bound to.

    Volkswagen said the temperature windows used in VW group vehicles was permissible because their their purpose was to prevent sudden and immediate risks of damage to the engine.


    The case, brought by consumers in Austria, centres on software controlling a valve that recirculates exhaust gases from the engine outlet. This reduces emissions of nitrogen oxides (NOx), which can cause respiratory problems in humans.

    The software shuts off the valve at temperatures outside the range of 15-33 Celsius (59-91 F) and at altitudes above 1,000 metres (3,280 feet), increasing NOx emissions. The consumers contend this is a prohibited defeat device, for which they should be compensated.

    In his legal opinion, CJEU advocate general Athanasios Rantos noted the court ruled last December that emissions-rigging software was illegal, even if it contributed to preventing ageing or clogging up of the engine. read more

    Rantos said the temperature window was not representative of real driving conditions in Austria and neighbouring Germany, as the average temperature was significantly lower than 15 C. Vehicles would also often be driven above 1,000 metres.​

    Oh, VW. Not like this. Not like this.

    EU court adviser finds car defeat devices broadly illegal
     
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