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What exactly is in that Fahrvergnugen, VW?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by murphyc, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. murphyc

    murphyc Well-Known Member

    Surprised there's no thread yet (unless I missed it) about Volkswagen admitting it installed a device in diesel cars that could detect when it was being tested for emissions and thus run clean as advertised during those times, but run far dirtier other times. Looks like not only is VW in big trouble, but the diesel car market in the U.S., already a bit of a niche market thanks in no small part to past mistakes by GM (among others), could take a big hit.
    Volkswagen Allegedly Openly Violated EPA Diesel Laws, Could Face Billions in Fines
    VW Issues Stop-Sale Order for All 2.0-liter TDI Diesel Models
    VW CEO Issues Statement on EPA Emissions Violations, Apologizes for Wrongdoing
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2015
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  2. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Yes, this is a big deal. VW has been pushing "clean diesel" hard for quite some time as a more environmentally friendly alternative to regular gas engines.
  3. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I hope VW takes a big, big hit.
  4. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Billions in fines?

    Also, one would think developing this work-around for emissions testing would be WAY more expensive than actually, you know, making a cleaner-running engine.
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    That's the way life works. You try to cut a corner and get caught and it's way more expensive. Usually doesn't work that way with corporations, though.
  6. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    The workaround was a few lines of code. The cleaner engine would have required the design, manufacture, and installation of a new system to capture the nitrogen oxide.
  7. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    I read somewhere (prolly also mentioned in a link above) that they face a fine of $37,000 per vehicle sold -- more than 300,000 of them.
  8. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Really? No sensors, internal timing mechanisms, an separate emissions control system for testing times?
  9. Monday Morning Sportswriter

    Monday Morning Sportswriter Well-Known Member

    The poor old ladies in those clean diesel commercials will have a hard time paying the fine on their fixed income.
  10. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    The truth was always out there.

  11. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    "Clean diesel." Now there's an oxymoron if there ever was one -- and almost as bad as that "clean coal" bullshit.
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  12. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    "Fuck you!"
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