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We'll decide which laws apply to us ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dog428, May 30, 2007.

  1. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    If nothing else, the precedent set by this administration, which has allowed it to be one of the most secretive in history, should scare the hell out of every single person in this country. I know the Republicans don't mind so much now, but wait until the next election, when a Dem takes office.


    WASHINGTON (May 29) - A lawyer for Vice President Dick Cheney told the Secret Service in September to eliminate data on who visited Cheney at his official residence, a newly disclosed letter states. The Sept. 13, 2006, letter from Cheney's lawyer says logs for Cheney's residence on the grounds of the Naval Observatory are subject to the Presidential Records Act.

    Such a designation prevents the public from learning who visited the vice president.

    The Justice Department filed the letter Friday in a lawsuit by a private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, seeking the identities of conservative religious leaders who visited Cheney at his official residence.

    The newly disclosed letter about visitors to Cheney's residence is accompanied by an 18-page Secret Service document revealing the agency's long-standing practice has been to destroy printed daily access lists of visitors to the residence.

    Separately, the agency says it has given Cheney's office handwritten logs of who visits him at his personal residence.

    Because of pending lawsuits, the Secret Service says it is now keeping copies of all material on visitors to Cheney's residence. According to the Secret Service document, Cheney's office has approved the agency's retention of the records, while maintaining they are presidential records subject to Cheney's control.

    "The latest filings make clear that the administration has been destroying documents and entering into secret agreements in violation of the law," said Anne Weismann, CREW's chief counsel.

    Regarding visitor information, the Secret Service "shall not retain any copy of these documents and information" once the material is given to the office of the vice president, says the September 2006 letter by Shannen Coffin, counsel to the vice president.

    "If any documents remain in your possession, please return them to OVP as soon as possible," the letter added.

    The vice president's lawyer wrote the letter as The Washington Post sought copies of Cheney's visitors at his residence. The Post requested the records under the Freedom of Information Act. The newspaper subsequently dropped a lawsuit seeking the information.

    The letter regarding the vice president's residence was in addition to an agreement quietly signed between the White House and the Secret Service a year ago when questions were raised about visits to the executive compound by convicted influence peddler Jack Abramoff.

    That agreement, which didn't surface publicly until late last year, said White House entry and exit logs were presidential records not subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act.

    When the agreement was signed in May 2006, a number of private groups and news organizations had filed FOIA requests with the Secret Service in an effort to identify how many times Abramoff or members of his lobbying team visited the White House.
  2. OH, and she was a covert agent, too, by the way.
  3. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    And not a word.

    A CIA agent is outed during this group's political tantrum and they've once again stood with their middle finger extended to the American public. And nobody's saying a word.

    But then, how could either of these two items stack up against Lindsey Lohan going back to rehab?
  4. Still more of it.
  5. CollegeJournalist

    CollegeJournalist Active Member

    But, but, it's all in the name of (false) security! Right, Dick?
  6. FishHack76

    FishHack76 Active Member

    I don't know why but nobody gets outraged anymore. It's like it's all used up.
  7. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    and clinton was impeached for lying about a bj.
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Remember: It's the terrorists who want to take away our freedoms.
  9. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    and he and cheney are doing a damned fine job of doing as much.
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