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Washington Post editorial calls for "boots on the ground" to stop ISIS

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Aug 26, 2014.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    No serious approach to the group can focus only on Iraq, as the United States has done thus far. The extremists treat Iraq and Syria as one area of operations, and the United States must do the same. In that theater, as Mr. Obama has said, the United States must find partners: Kurds in Iraq and Syria, Sunni tribal leaders in Iraq, the Iraqi government if it can become more inclusive, what is left of the Free Syrian Army. Aiding them does not require a U.S. invasion, but it will need “boots on the ground,” as Mr. Obama already has acknowledged by sending close to 1,000 special forces back to Iraq. They will be needed for training, to assist in air targeting and perhaps more. As The Post’s Greg Miller reported
    Sunday, the United States suffers from “persistent intelligence gaps” in Syria; these can be filled only with a human presence in the region, not by drones or satellite technology alone.

  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The American political elite's (Post editorial board sure qualifies) belief in war apparently cannot be shaken by any amount of past failure. Also, how does the introduction of U.S. forces into a foreign country without its government's approval not constitute an invasion?
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    What does Bezos get out of it?
  4. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    I don't see what fucking them in the ass solves.
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Nassau is a long way away from the caliphate.
  6. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member


    If only we could fight ISIS with drivers and fairway woods it would appear that
    we are well stocked.
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  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    More boot sales for Amazon?
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Bret Stephens in the WSJ:

    In the current issue of the New Yorker, Mr. Packer has an essay titled "The Common Enemy," which paints ISIS in especially terrifying colors: The Islamic State's project is "totalitarian." Its ideology is "expansionist as well as eliminationist." It has "many hundreds of fighters holding European or American passports [who] will eventually return home with training, skills, and the arrogance of battlefield victory." It threatened a religious minority with "imminent genocide." Its ambitions will not "remain confined to the boundaries of the Tigris and the Euphrates." The administration's usual counterterrorism tool, the drone strike, is "barely relevant against the Islamic State's thousands of ground troops."

    "Pay attention to other people's nightmares," he concludes, "because they might be contagious."

    Correcto-mundo. Which brings us back to the questions confronting the Bush administration on Sept. 12, 2001. Are we going to fight terrorists over there—or are we going to wait for them to come here? Do we choose to confront terrorism by means of war—or as a criminal justice issue? Can we assume the cancer in the Middle East won't spread so we can "pivot" to Asia and do some more "nation-building at home"? Can we win with a light-footprint approach against a heavy-footprint enemy?

    Say what you will about George W. Bush: He got every one of these questions right while Mr. Obama got every one of them wrong. It's a truth that may at last be dawning on the likes of Mr. Packer and the other neo-neocons, not that I expect them ever to admit it.

  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Seems like something the Blackwater (or whatever it's called today) guys would love to be a part of.

    That said, Brits are teaming with Delta Force and Seal Team 6 to "cut the head off the snake" pronto:

  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I hope they take care when cutting off the head of the snake:

    A Chinese chef cooking a dish with cobra flesh was killed by the snake he had planned to eat — when the creature’s severed head chomped down on him first.

    Peng Fan set the Indochinese spitting cobra’s head aside while chopping its body for a soup, the Mirror newspaper reported.

    But when he tried to toss the reptile’s head in the trash 20 minutes later, it bit him, injecting him with its fast-acting venom.

    Diners in his restaurant recalled hearing screams coming from the kitchen.

    “Suddenly there was a lot of commotion,” one woman said. “We did not know what was happening . . . After we heard that, we did not continue with our meal.”

    All reptiles can function for up to an hour without the rest of their bodies, an expert said.

  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    That really needs to be a Simpsons bit.
  12. britwrit

    britwrit Well-Known Member

    So, we put boots on the ground in Iraq. What happens when ISIS inevitably scuttles back over the border into what is still technically Syria?

    I really know nothing about the geopolitics of the situation. Is it a possible to use the specter of ISIS to compel Assad into some form of power sharing, somewhat democratic arrangement with the non-insane segment of the Syrian rebels?
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