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Wall Street Journal's new sports dealio off to rocky start

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by apseloser, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. apseloser

    apseloser Member

    From something called the New York Observer: Before he even had one byline for the paper, Yankees beat reporter Jim Baumbach has left The Journal. He is returning to Newsday. "It's over. He made a decision. We're moving forward," said John Seeley, the editor of The Journal's Greater New York section.

    From Loser: Anyone seen this section in the couple days it's been out? Loser would love a critique. Loser is very skeptical about its chances of making a dent in the NYC sports market.

    http://www.observer.com/2010/media/reporter-jim-baumbach-flees-journal-return-newsday
     
  2. Mediator

    Mediator Member

    The deadlines for the section are 2 p.m. and 5 p.m. I have no idea how you cover sports under those criteria. In New York or anyplace else.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I assume it'll be the same as the WSJ's current sports in the national edition. Long profiles and features plus short articles featuring the overuse of dodgy statistics to make forecasts.
    Makes you wonder about the numbers in the financial news sections.,
     
  4. Mediator

    Mediator Member

    It's like having chicken every day. And I don't care how great a feature is, when the Yankees are in the playoffs people are going to want to read about the game, or have the result drive the coverage. There's no way this section can compete with the NY Times, they have those strong features/enterprise and actual news.

    And one last rant: Why have beat writers with those deadlines? Have a stable of good feature writers. Instead they've hired a staff of people who aren't from NY and have no sourcing. (Baumbach was the exception, there, and he's gone.)

    I am puzzled by this section in many ways. But perhaps I will be surprised.
     
  5. jetssack

    jetssack Member

    Loser: critiques, as requested:
    http://www.observer.com/2010/media/michael-wolff-wsjs-new-york-section-confounding-and-preposterous
    http://www.newser.com/off-the-grid/post/456/nyc-section-is-the-wsj-turning-in-its-grave.html?utm_source=otg&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20100504
    http://www.observer.com/2010/media/journal%E2%80%99s-new-section-review

    Baumbach's a good reporter. Must be real problems at WSJ.

    Mediator: curious as to how you know the deadline times. are you a staffer there?
     
  6. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    How big is the sports staff? I know some serious talent there.
     
  7. sammyd

    sammyd New Member

    If there is indeed serious talent there, it's not showing up in print. I saw two of the much-ballyhooed New York extras last week and was completely underwhelmed. Both had 2 pages of sports and not a single story that was even remotely unique.
     
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