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USC's hoops team bans itself from tourney...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Can't wait to see what this does to the whole institutional control argument...

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/01/usc-basketball-imposes-major-sanctions.html
     
  2. fishhack2009

    fishhack2009 Active Member

    Thread headline is somewhat misleading. Makes it seem like the team itself voted the sanctions.
     
  3. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Feel free to pick that nit w/ the LAT headline writer:

    "USC basketball imposes major sanctions"
     
  4. Trouser_Buddah

    Trouser_Buddah Active Member

    I'm banning myself from dating super models.
     
  5. fishhack2009

    fishhack2009 Active Member

    From the lede:

    USC this morning announced it has implemented self-imposed sanctions on its men's basketball program for NCAA rule violations related to O.J. Mayo.

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    Accuracy is somewhat important in our business. The sanctions were imposed by the university. The story headline leaves an inaccurate impression.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    This is the perfect solution for USC. They get to act all contrite and say they took the hard line about a sport they wouldn't even care about dropping entirely, and in return the NCAA continues to play ostrich about the football program from Reggie Bush to Joe McKnight. Institutional control under Pete Carroll is a joke, and the NCAA and Pac-10 are in on the joke.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The thing that sucks to me, is that the players now are being punished for stuff that they did not do.

    I'd rather the team be allowed to play in the postseason, but the school shouldn't be allowed to collect any money generated for an appearance. Make the school pay the team's way to the NCAA, or the NIT (or the other crappy tournaments)
     
  8. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    That's not a real punishment. You don't dissuade schools from cheating by fining them, especially not schools with Scrooge McDuck-style silos of money.
     
  9. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    That's a noble thought, but it's not like the players will need to have car washes to pay their way. The football program surely makes enough money that the postseason hoops appearance money doesn't make or break anything.
     
  10. mustangj17

    mustangj17 Active Member

    Real fair. Cheater leaves. Clean players pay the price.
     
  11. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    If you're gonna feel sorry for clean players, then the NCAA's gonna have a real hard time punishing anyone. Even high-profile cheating cases typically only involve a fraction of the team. Rogue programs have to be punished. Collateral damage is almost inevitable. I could get behind a movement that says that players can transfer without having to sit out a year from any program hit with a postseason ban.

    But unless you can come up with a meaningful punishment that avoids collaterally punishing innocent players, then this is the best we've got.
     
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Then slap them with a Scrooge McDuck fine, or hand out a few more death penalties.

    Or, just admit it already that NCAA amateurism is a fraud, and let the players earn whatever they can.
     
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