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Unemployment drops to 8.3 percent

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Feb 3, 2012.

  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The official unemployment figure is never an accurate assessment of true unemployment in this country.

    But the trends ARE usually accurate.

    Clearly, private sector hiring is picking up. They can scrub things to try to create "good news." But the fact that they adjusted their December number upward and the January number exceeded all expectations tells me this is real.

    At the end of the day, they can throw out whatever numbers they want, but people know whether they, and all their neighbors, have jobs or not. I am sure people are experiencing something better right now than they were 6 or 7 months ago. Which is really good news.
     
  2. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    The good weather we had across the country in January had to help, too, especially in construction.

    Mitt Romney just climbed on top of his station wagon to kick his dog.
     
  3. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    There's nothing worse than being unemployed. I think there are a lot of us who never thought we'd be unemployed for a day during our life who dealt with it over the last few years. I've been at my current gig for almost two years and I am soooo thankful for that.
     
  4. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    He'll let 'em starve.
     
  5. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    He'll have to fight Ole Tony for that title, right?
     
  6. The 8.3 percent figure underestimates how many people are unemployed.

    The key number you want to look at is new jobs created. Anything over somewhere around 150,000 shows real growth to keep up with population increases. Anything less than that is not enough to keep up with the population. This month's 243,000 is great because it not only covers that, but it also makes up some ground previously lost.

    For the first about 15 months of the recovery, we were adding new jobs, but not enough to cover the increased population. It would be similar to getting a 2% raise when your cost of living increased 4%. So, in reality, we were increasing unemployment. So why did the unemployment rate go down? Because so many more people hit the benchmark for consecutive weeks of unemployment each month that the Bureau of Labor Statistics no longer considered them in the "workforce." Essentially, the numbers are inflated because the percentage of working-age adults considered to be in the workforce was dropping each month, and those people out of the workforce don't count as "unemployed." They're treated as if they were retired.

    That's my only criticism of the president's job graphic.

    But this month and last month are definitely real growth numbers.
     
  7. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    . . .before he took out his hose to remove the feces that the dog released during the journey.

    Nice.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That story has been criminally underplayed. Such a hoot.
     
  9. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    I think anybody who keeps up with unemployment figures understands the thing about underemployment and people who stopped looking for jobs for whatever reason. Democrats have complained about underemployment since Reagan. Republicans have constantly harped on the "no longer looking" adjustment for three years now.

    Given that, the trend in unemployment rates is an apples-to-apples thing. 8.3 this month is better than 8.5 last month, considering that they are measured the same way. If last months figures included people who stopped looking for work and this month's did not, you can say the numbers are meaningless.

    That's not the case.
     
  10. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    They'll put the lotion on the skin or else they'll get the hose again. :D
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Starman 2012: A cup of rotten rice in every pot.

    Can Larry Brown be his VP?
     
  12. I'm not a fan of just looking at the percentages for trends because the number of people who move out of the workforce varies each month, depending upon what happened in the past in the economy. The new-jobs number is a better indicator because there are some months (for example, January 2011) where the unemployment percentage dropped significantly despite a small increase in jobs. The trend was still bad at that point, as there were more new workers than there were new jobs, but the unemployment rate didn't reflect that. Those people who were "out of the workforce" were still looking to be in the workforce.
     
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