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Unemployment benefits story (sympathy or sob)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Stitch, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    I listened to this story on NPR and wondered how the woman getting extended benefits could keep doing so when she had no intention of looking for work – she was attending school. BTW, there is a mention of the woman and her husband having a 26-year-old son. The kid is either a deadbeat or disabled, but I'm guessing deadbeat since no mention is made of the parents needing to care for him.

  2. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    My uncle was laid off as a night time security guard a long time ago (at least a year and a half). I asked him last Christmas if he was working. He said, "No." I asked him if he was looking for a job. He said, "No." He was just living off the unemployment. He has been looking for work more recently but at his age, education level, physical unfitness and lack of any special skills, I don't know what kind of work he will be able to find. His unemployment runs out this week and he has no idea how he is going to be able to stay in his trailer. I'm not overly sympathetic to his situation, but his unemployment was purely subsistence living. It has kept him from moving in with my parents or grandparents. So, if it's between extending unemployment to avoid the fate of being homeless and making sure rich people get all of their tax cuts extended rather than just some, then I'm for the unemployment.
  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I don't like when unemployment is used as a proxy for welfare. If people need government assistance to live a basically acceptable lifestyle, then by all means give it to them.
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Speaking as someone who was unemployed, except for freelance, for a very long time (more than a year), unemployment benefits were an essential part of my then-dire financial situation. So I support them. It would be better if the government could somehow find work for unemployed persons at least temporarily, as it would mean some production was being added to the economy, but apparently that's socialism.
  5. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    There are two very different sides to this.

    On one side is the person who spends every day unemployed doing everything they can to find a job and can't find one.

    On the other side are the people who are living off unemployment, who are not looking for work.

    I don't have an answer to this one.
  6. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    How much does unemployment pay? Can someone pay a mortgage and a car payment?
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    One problem with the system, though, is it discourages you to find something to bolster your unemployment. If you are getting about $400 a week in benefits, you might be able to find a full-time job paying $10 an hour, which would pay $400 a week.

    But if you take it, you don't get any unemployment benefits. You work 40 hours a week to take home what you'd get by doing nothing.

    I'd rather see a system where you have the incentive to get back in the work force in some capacity without being penalized for it.
  8. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    It can really vary. In certain parts of the country it can be as much as $600 a week. In other places, it's half that.
  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    How much they get is partially determined by how much they made. And whether that pays for their mortgage and car payment depends on their mortgage and their car payment.

    There's a couple different issues at stake. One is that this country is still rich enough that nobody should be worrying about whether they are going to get kicked out of their trailer. Another is that this country is in bad enough financial straits that it can't afford to bankroll people forever beyond that basic standard of living.

    Many of them will never be able to find jobs that let them maintain the lifestyle they are used to, and the permanent unemployment they are pushing for is just letting them delay the inevitable.
  10. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Exactly. When I was in between jobs and freelancing. I would make $250 freelancing and then would be docked $220 or so by unemployment. I was actually told by the unemployment office that I would be better off not working on the side.
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    A person who can deny unemployment benefits while advocating the extension of the plus-$250,000 tax cuts is a sight to behold indeed. I suppose I'll never quite get used to seeing someone take so much glee in the suffering of others.
  12. Doesn't unemployment only last so long - like six months?
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