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Torture: McCain vs. Mukasey

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, May 12, 2011.

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  1. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    Well you and Y_F apparently enjoy reading both as well. Your point is ridiculous considering the post you deleted started out "Zeke12 on the website sportsjournalists wrote...".
     
  2. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    You're making this into something it's not. I was asking Dick a question. He answered it.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    It appears from Reuters story that they were operating under Bush's order:

    "Bush's September 17, 2001, order, which is still highly classified, authorized the CIA to use all methods at its disposal -- explicitly including deadly force -- to wipe out al Qaeda and its leaders.

    Presidential covert action findings never expire unless a president issues a new written order suspending or revoking them, current and former U.S. national security officials told Reuters. So Bush's nine-and-a-half-year-old order remained a key legal authority under which Obama launched the commando raid that led to bin Laden's death."
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't want to out anyone.

    Besides, is that a unique thought?
     
  5. Mark McGwire

    Mark McGwire Member

    Since it wasn't the CIA performing the operation, Boom, no, they weren't operating under that order. The United States military was operating under the AUMF. It was in all the papers.
     
  6. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    "It was President Bill Clinton who launched the hunt for bin Laden. After the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Clinton signed what some former U.S. officials called a "covert action finding" authorizing CIA operations against al Qaeda, then regarded as a marginal Islamic militant faction with an eccentric, Saudi-born leader.

    But some Clinton aides, led by attorney general Janet Reno, were concerned about the legality of killing bin Laden, former top intelligence and counter-terrorism officials said. Clinton's orders permitted U.S. forces to kill bin Laden in self-defense, but the prime directive was to capture him and bring him to justice in the United States."
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So tell me, what did you think of Israel's operation in Dubai?

    Ragu was against that, but supported our operation in Abbottabad.

    I fail to see the difference.

    Military commander of an organization who had declared was against a nation. Said nation kills military commander in a third nation.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    You really need to become more informed. The operation was carried out by military under CIA legal authority.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    At least somebody goes there.
     
  10. Mark McGwire

    Mark McGwire Member

    And a week after Sept. 11 the Congress passed an AUMF that gave the President the authority to:

    “use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”

    Listen, you kids have been great. Thanks for coming out. No, really, always a pleasure. Drive home safely.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    From the article Boom posted earlier:

     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So wait, were they following a policy put in place by Clinton or one authorized by Congress during Bush's Presidency?
     
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