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Today's outsourcing victim: Golden Nugget Atlantic City

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Fucking Jersey.
     
  2. Nugget is suing to get money back from gamblers. Not going to happen but my guess is that they had to go that step in order to get damages from company that supplied cards.

    Something about this story is fishy. The dealer would have to be brain dead not to realize what was going on and Baccarat dealers are normally the more seasoned employees. Plus $1.5 million is a lot of money to go out without the floor getting involved. If the players were smart enough to realize the cards were coming out in same order then pit boss should have been able to spot same thing.
     
  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    As I understand it, by law in NJ there are no games of skill, only games of chance (do they have poker in NJ?)*. The NJ administrative code specifies how baccarat games are to be run, and it even makes provision for when/how the decks are to be shuffled. Further, the code specifies how pre-shuffled decks are to be handled. As an aside, I would assume casinos that used pre-shuffled decks do so to speed up the game (and therefore make more money per hour). Seeing as how this set of pre-shuffled decks hadn't been shuffled, I would suspect that by NJ law it wasn't a legal game. Therefore, payouts from the game wouldn't be legal either.


    *This is why blackjack card-counters can't be barred in NJ. They have to be stopped by other means (e.g., re-shuffling after every hand).
     
  4. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    So basically, the casino broke the law but will benefit from the fact that they did so.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I think "broke the law" is a stretch, but it's certainly the case that the casino found itself involved, however inadvertently, in a game that didn't conform to the law.
     
  6. turski7

    turski7 Member

    I wouldn't doubt if this is what the casinos claim. Bunch of scumbags. They hate when anyone wins a large amount of dough and seemingly turn so many of these wins into federal cases. It's another reason not to gamble. The house always wins.
     
  7. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    For those who haven't read it, this is a great article: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/04/the-man-who-broke-atlantic-city/308900/. And it's especially great for those who like to see the casinos get screwed over for a change.
     
  8. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    If the law stipulates the cards were to have been handled in a certain way and the casino did not do that, the casino broke the law so, no, it's not a stretch and the casino should not be allowed to fuck the card players out of their money as a result.
     
  9. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I don't have any information that the casino didn't do what it was supposed to do. All I know is that the code makes provision for pre-shuffled cards, which the casino presumed it was using. I would assume the casino wouldn't knowingly violate this law, if only because such a violation would lead to its getting its ass handed to it on the tables.

    In your neck of the woods (wherever the heck that is), there are laws regarding the composition of gasoline you can burn in your car. You fill up assuming those laws have been followed. Suppose a bad batch of gasoline was mistakenly shipped to your gas station. Would you be OK with folks saying that you broke the law?
     
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