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Today's outsourcing victim: Golden Nugget Atlantic City

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    The casino was using a new deck that was supposed to be preshuffled. It wasn't. $1.5 million and 41 hands later, they finally figured it out.

  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    How is this even remotely possible? Every time I have ever seen a new deck, the dealer shows us all the cards in sequence and then shuffles them.

    Trying to withhold the gamblers' money because the casino was too lazy to shuffle is ridiculous.
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I just don't see how the casino can legally hold onto that money. There's no way that would hold up in court but the sad thing is, when the suit gets tossed most of that money will probably wind up going to their lawyers for legal fees.

    Fuck the Golden Nugget.
  4. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    It's legal for them to withhold the money if slot machines malfunction. I would assume this falls into the same territory.
  5. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    I've never played Baccarat, nor seen the cards they use. I assume they're different from normal cards?
    I have played plenty of blackjack, though, and been at the table when they switch decks. They shut the table down for 10-15 minutes, go through every single card in each deck (I'm assuming to make sure they're all there), then shuffle them all up. Even if the decks were preshuffled, it seems that would be a wise procedure. If the Golden Nugget doesn't have something similar in place, fuck them. It's their own fault. They deserve to get taken to the woodshed.
    Plus, don't the decks get shuffled during the game? Either by hand or machine? How does baccarat work?
  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    They use regular cards but not in a regular way. It's a really stupid game ... By and large you are betting on the flip of a coin.

    Here's a link that explains:

  7. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    The gamblers don't have much of a legal case, do they? I guess it comes down to whether not shuffling through negligence should negate the outcome of a bet.
  8. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    And that's why it seems like this would be different than a slot machine malfunctioning. That's a mechanical issue. Not checking the decks is negligence on the part of the casino and their own fucking fault.

    Again, fuck the Golden Nugget.
  9. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    That's interesting.

    If the machines malfunction the other way and nobody wins . . . what's the remedy for that?
  10. turski7

    turski7 Member

    I had to laugh when the casino said it needs to provide "fair odds" for both the player and casino. I guess they never played keno.
  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    The Latin phrase is sena dura ... which means "tough titty"
  12. turski7

    turski7 Member

    In the world of common sense, the gamblers would have a legitimate legal claim. However, the casinos wield so much power, who knows what the outcome would be.
    It's odd that a card-counter does not have to show ID and must be paid out when caught (at least in NV), but these folks, who did nothing wrong, are getting screwed.
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