Tim Hudson: Hall of Famer?

You need to put up the number of starts when using %. And just a little cherry-picking, if you look at Seaver's numbers before age 35, I think he'd crush Santana. Even if you compared their best 10 consecutive years, Seaver would crush.

 

I don't need your newfangled statistics. Know how we could tell Koufax was the best back in the day? His fastball sounded different.

 

KOUFAX'S FASTBALL SOUNDS
70% onrushing train
20% speeding bullet
10% just a big "whooooosh"

MAGLIE'S FASTBALL SOUNDS
40% onrushing train
32% speeding bullet
21% just a big "whoooooosh"
7% chin music, accordion style

 

excellent use of the sabra-metrics

 

I guess it's about as fun as WAR conversations.

 

Dude. Tim Kurkjian is ON IT.

From yesterday:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9190902/sounds-major-league-baseball-game-players-perspective

 

I actually think 93Devil's numbers are somewhat interesting, particularly once you scale it back to 7 IP to make it fair for today's pitchers.

It's interesting to see how often a guy came out and shut people down. Obviously, it all kind of comes out in the ERA wash any way, but still interesting numbers, for what they are worth.

 

It's a hammering out process, but I have always thought there is something better than a quality start. Just pegging that down will be more of a problem.

Seven and one might be it.

I just hate taking out a starter that is doing well just to reach a set up guy. Starter to closer, I am OK with, but starter to a set up guy? I have never liked that. Especially if the starter is a stud.

 

Nine innings and two runs may be better than seven and one, depending on circumstance.

 

Is this the bizzaro baseball thread?

What the hell happened to winners win and pitching to score?

 

See? Who needs numbers or eyesight for that matter.