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This will never happen in baseball

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Simon_Cowbell, Feb 4, 2008.

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  1. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    I wouldn't accuse someone of not thinking things through unless I felt, based on what other people bring to the table that a) it's an argument that's been made and discredited many times before and b) the examples used to bolster the argument seemed more legit.

    I have never claimed to be an expert on how the NFL's finance work (nor that of baseball) so I'll leave that part out of my argument. But his example of the Edge not being a cap casualty is rather nonsensical to me.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Actually, he made the salient points there. James had a lot of wear on him, including a major knee injury. He was 28 years old, not young by NFL running back standards. Money is always a factor, but there was plenty of other reason to move on.

    He loses me on Faulk, who I do think was a cap casualty. But I think the disagreement there is more a matter of interpretation than a lack of thought.
     
  3. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    The mere fact that there is such a thing as a "cap casualty" tells you the NFL salary cap system is faulty.
    The real farce, of course, is that players sign 6-year contracts and get cut two years later with nothing guaranteed.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    It's called making hard financial choices, something some MLB teams never have to do but all NFL teams have to do.
     
  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Actually, it's called signing 10-year contracts that aren't worth the paper they're written on. The NFL way.
     
  6. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    If that's the case, then why did the NFL franchise sign a player to a long term contract in the first place? If they knew that they were going to have to make a hard financial choice?
     
  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Nothing is guaranteed, except that multi-million dollar signing bonus, which comprises much of the worth of the contract.
     
  8. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Fixed. :)
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    The truth is, there are flaws in both systems.

    Bottom line is, for the most part, the NFL has won its disputes with the players and MLB has lost.

    And really, the players (or at least their agents) know full well that their contracts are not guaranteed. You're acting like it is a shock when they get cut loose.
     
  10. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    He's not saying it's a shock when NFL players get cut, even with their "guaranteed" contracts. I believe he's saying that the NFL's system makes contracts invalid.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    If both sides know that the deal isn't guaranteed and the player is liable to be cut before the deal runs out, it's not as unfair as he is making it out to be.
     
  12. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    It's funny that the NFL calls those pieces of paper a "contract".
     
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