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The Zen of Bobby V.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by derwood, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. spnited

    spnited Active Member


    Yes, because he's been nothing but a winner in the major leagues...oh, wait he's never even managed a first-place team.

    Most overrated manager this side of Tony the Genius...and a smug, obnoxious prick to boot.
     
  2. mike311gd

    mike311gd Active Member

    But the man could grow facial hair in an instant.
     
  3. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Outmanaged the ever-lasting shit out of Tony the Genius in 2000, didn't he?

    He made the fucking World series with an outfield of Benny Agbayani, Jay Payton and Timo Perez. And he would have won it, too, if Armando Benitez didn't have the spine of a jellyfish.

    The. man. can. fucking. manage.
     
  4. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    The man is a fucking fraud who acts like he invented the fucking game. And a total douchebag.
     
  5. D-3 Fan

    D-3 Fan Well-Known Member

    He's both of those descriptions. That's why I like his acerbic demeanor. He can piss you off and out manage your ass at the same time.

    Plus, he'll say what's on his mind, whether it's stupid or not.
     
  6. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Yes, dickhead, his great managing had so much to do with the Cards' pitchers sucking in 2000 NLCS
     
  7. crusoes

    crusoes Active Member

    am I missing something? Thirteen years as a manager over here, twice in the playoffs. What can he fucking manage, except to keep a job for a few years? He didn't manage to win much.
     
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Well, let's see here. He managed in baseball hell, Texas, and won 581 games there, easily the most in franchise history. He had four winning seasons in six full years--and had a winning record when he was fired in 1992--for a franchise that had six winning seasons in 25 years prior to his arrival. The Rangers have had six winning seasons in the 15 years following his departure.

    No, they didn't make the playoffs, but the Rangers didn't make the playoffs until realignment...and won all of one game in three series.

    He won 536 games with the Mets, second-most behind Davey Johnson. He took the Mets to the playoffs in consecutive years, something the dog-ass franchise hasn't been done before or since. He took them to their only World Series in the past 21 years. The Mets were finishing their sixth straight losing season when he took over. They had a winning record in each of the next five seasons. His replacements have been the joke of the city.

    He won. A lot. And he'll win again, a lot, if he comes back.
     
  9. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Rick Ankiel suddenly not finding the strike zone had as much to do with that lucky World Series trip as Bobby's supposed managerial prowess.
     
  10. crusoes

    crusoes Active Member

    Gene Mauch won a lot of games in Philadelphia in 1964. Won a lot of games with the California Angels in 1982 and 1986. Is he considered a winner for doing well those seasons?

    Valentine did get to the playoffs. Twice. In 13 seasons. Not good enough. He had plenty of opportunity in both spots and didn't get the job done. Which is why he's in Japan now.
     
  11. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    If not winning the WS was the rationale for sending managers to Japan, the island would sink with all the fat-ass Gaijin imports.
     
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