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The truth about Matthew Shepard???

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by BenPoquette, Sep 14, 2013.

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  1. I await Ben's post blaming Jews for the Holocaust. They must have had it coming, right?
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    There are valuable reasons for telling certain stories in a certain way at pivotal times, but that doesn’t mean we have to hold on to them once they’ve outlived their usefulness.
     
  3. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    Waiting for the first person to make an apples to oranges comparison by bringing up some case of a straight person killed by a gay that "the media ignored"...
     
  4. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I don't think they thought "we killed him for his meth" was a great strategy for defense.
     
  5. cyclingwriter

    cyclingwriter Active Member

    they killed jesus. proof enough (blue font)
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    There are obvious reasons why advocates of hate crime legislation must want to preserve one particular version of the Matthew Shepard story, but it was always just that — a version.
     
  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Congrats, you're both wrong.

    For the record, the bastion of journalistic integrity YF keeps quoting here is Aaron Hicklin, a magazine editor whose claim to fame is outing both Jodie Foster and Anderson Cooper against their wishes.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    In his book, Flagrant Conduct, Dale Carpenter, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, similarly unpicks the notorious case of Lawrence v. Texas, in which the arrest of two men for having sex in their own bedroom became a vehicle for affirming the right of gay couples to have consensual sex in private. Except that the two men were not having sex, and were not even a couple. Yet this non-story, carefully edited and taken all the way to the Supreme Court, changed America.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The tragedy was 'enshrined ... as passion play and folktale, but hardly ever for the truth of what it was': the story of a troubled young man who had died because he had been involved with Laramie's drug underworld rather than because he was gay.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/12/stephen-jimenez-matthew-shepard_n_3914707.html
     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    So, the conspiracy now reaches the officers who charged them with "Homosexual Conduct," but it goes all the way to the Supreme Court. Now, I'm worried.
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Oh, and have fun being the guy who argues against hate-crime laws. Because that's exactly what you're doing, whether you realize it or not.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Former Laramie Police Detective Ben Fritzen, one of the lead investigators in the case, also believed robbery was the primary motive. "Matthew Shepard's sexual preference or sexual orientation certainly wasn't the motive in the homicide," he said.

    "If it wasn't Shepard, they would have found another easy target. What it came down to really is drugs and money and two punks that were out looking for it," Fritzen said.


    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=277685&page=1&singlePage=true
     
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