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The Sporting News 2009 Baseball Awards

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Oscar Gamble, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. Oscar Gamble

    Oscar Gamble New Member

    The Sporting News' annual baseball awards are being announced this week. These awards are voted by the players rather than the BBWAA.

    Gordon Beckham, JA Happ AL, NL rookies of the year:



    Zack Greinke, Tim Lincecum AL, NL pitchers of the year:



    Mike Scioscia, Jim Tracy AL, NL managers of the year:



    Sporting News names Albert Pujols 2009 Major League Baseball Player of the Year



    Sporting News presents its 2009 American, National League All-Star teams
    Joe Mauer, Albert Pujols among top vote-getters in balloting by major league execs



    Chris Carpenter, Aaron Hill named Sporting News' 2009 comeback players of the year



    Mariano Rivera, Ryan Franklin named Sporting News' 2009 relievers of the year



    (edited to include additional TSN baseball awards announcements)
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    How long before BYH starts complaining about the AL Manager pick?
  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Or someone else about the NL ROY pick?
  4. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Happ is the right pick in the NL. Nolan Reimold had better numbers as AL ROY.
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I don't have a huge problem with Beckham over Reimold just because he played a tougher position. I would have gone with Andrew Bailey over either of them. He was absolutely dominant for Oakland (6-3, 26 saves, 1.84 ERA, 0.88 WHIP and 91 strikeouts in 81 1/3 innings).

    I can see the argument for Tommy Hanson over Happ in the NL. Hanson had a lower ERA and a lower WHIP. Happ had two more starts and one more victory. Either is a good choice.
  6. Trey Beamon

    Trey Beamon Active Member

    I like the Bailey pick, oop.

    If Andrew McCutchen can't win it -- his numbers and defensive position/ability say he has a shot, though -- I'd go with Hanson.
  7. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    10 wins as a starter should NEVER win anyone rookie of the year.
  8. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    There are a SHITLOAD more rookie starting pitchers through history who had 11 or fewer wins and 3 ERAs... than rookie hitters who hit .321 with an .850 OPS and .308 with two outs and runners in scoring position in 565 plate appearances from the leadoff spot.

    But I understand some of you subverting your logic to get a rise out of me.

    I guess I wear that as a badge of honor.

    Thank you.
  9. Cape_Fear

    Cape_Fear Active Member

    Happ didn't spend the whole year as a starter. He didn't get moved to the rotation until May.
  10. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Simon's right. A first season like Coghlan's has only happened 22 times in major league history.

    For single seasons, From 1901 to 2009, During first season , (requiring BA>=.320, PA>=450 and OPS>=.800):

    2009 - Chris Coghlan
    2007 - Hunter Pence, Ryan Braun
    2001 - Albert Pujols, Ichiro Suzuki
    1980 - Dave Stapleton
    1974 - Mike Hargrove
    1948 - Richie Ashburn
    1939 - Ted Williams, Charlie Keller
    1936 - Johnny Mize, Joe Dimaggio
    1929 - Earl Averill, Johnny Frederick, Dale Alexander
    1928 - Del Bissonette
    1927 - Lloyd Waner
    1926 - Paul Waner
    1925 - Mickey Cochrane, Dick Cox
    1920 - Bob Meusel
    1902 - Patsy Dougherty

    Eight of those guys are HOFers, and two more are locks to be. (Too early to tell on Braun.)
  11. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    So what... that's part of it.

    Guy can't get a free ride skipping a third of the season by being a spot reliever, while Coghlan is out there, hitting .205 his first month in the bigs, that month being the only thing that kept him from hitting .350.
  12. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Thank you.
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