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The shutdown and Me

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by JayFarrar, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    So the GF, while a state employee, was told she might be furloughed because of the federal shutdown.

    Her small biz development office is partially funded by federal grants and unless the shutdown is averted by close of business Tuesday, they'll be told not to report on Wednesday.

    Things are fluid of course. They might be told they'll be able to work, but at reduced pay, depending on how much of their salary comes from the federal grants. They might be told to work, but that they may not get paid on the next payday, in this case that would be Nov. 1.

    The 1st and 15th are normal, so the thinking is that the government will open up before then and all will be well.

    It won't be disaster if she misses a paycheck but if she misses several and we're forced to get by on my piddly newspaper income, then it will get interesting.

    So things are getting a little puckered up at the house.
  2. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Don't riot at Walmart.
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Jay, is there any clarity about what will happen once they do come back to work? Do they get back pay?

    That's one thing that's going to be a sticking point. People who are furloughed, if they get back, are going to end up with essentially just a nice month-long vacation at taxpayer expense. But all of the people are perfectly willing to show up for work and are being forbidden by factors way beyond their control.
  4. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    If they're furloughed, they won't get paid.

    Their program, by the way, is self-sustaining. They generate revenue off their programs and could keep themselves open because their federal funding is a relatively small percentage of the total budget.

    They also won't have health insurance and they won't accrue vacation time while furloughed. They also can't burn off vacation time for the length of the furlough to keep a check coming in.
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Operation Make It Hurt rolls on.
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It's absolutely ridiculous that they've already agreed to pay federal employees who have been furloughed.

    As usual, they take care of their own. But the folks who work for contractors, and private businesses with government contracts will get screwed.
  7. Bradley Guire

    Bradley Guire Well-Known Member

    I told my Army brother that if any federal workers were going to revolt, well, he's the one that can drive a tank while his buddies grab the guns and mustard gas.
  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Wait a minute. So this is a state program, not a federal one, and it could stay open without the federal money by using revenue it generates?

    So why the furloughs? Whose decision is it to shut down, and why?
  9. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    My day of discontent is over.

    She got word this afternoon that some common sense prevailed and no furlough is forthcoming.

    The combination of program funds that can be used to cover the difference and that some of the federal money they're receiving, they'll continue to get.

    Turns out their Obamacare rollout money was protected.

    Now if the government stays shutdown for months, then the equation will change.
  10. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    What's this mean?
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Mandatory spending.

    Only discretionary spending is halted, and ObamaCare is mandatory spending.
  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Wonder why something that people can't even sign up for is considered vital? Doesn't really make sense.
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