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The nightmare scenario when public services are privatized

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Baron Scicluna, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    The part where the same bill that requires them to pre-fund their retirement plan for workers who haven't even been hired yet -- something no other organization, governmental of private, has to do -- also makes it nearly impossible for them to raise rates.

    Congress passed a bill that makes it impossible for the post office to show a profit or break even. So they could come back and get rid of it later.
     
  2. waterytart

    waterytart Active Member

    You gotta love Republican grasp of cause-and-effect. Abolishing the USPS hurts whom?

    Maybe older voters who still live in rural areas?
     
  3. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    Just so.

    Also, too, it's a relatively simple solution, without Congress rigging it.

    We can operate the post office at a loss of five billion a year -- which is really a drop in the bucket, as important government services go -- or they could raise the rates a nickel and break even on paper.

    We're all paying for it either way.

    One of the sillier right-wing tropes out there.

    The post office is never a good rebuttal to either side of that argument. It's unique. That said, you could raise the rates to cover the yearly loss and the post office would still operate much more efficiently than private mail delivery companies. It's not even close.
     
  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    When those private companies are forced to serve every single address in the country, no matter how remote, without using the USPS for the expensive ones, then we can compare their profitability to the USPS's.

    Until then, apples and oranges.
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It is, really and genuinely, an absurd political trope. Right-wing interests in government cut or hold down revenues for a governmental entity, then crow that it isn't showing a "profit" so it must be inefficient.

    It's the reverse of when liberals tout the results of a program but act horrified if you ask about the cost.
     
  6. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    Yes.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    That also was a different generation in which mental deficiences were treated as if the people were just nuts and should be locked away with a minimum of care.
     
  8. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Or don't buy cable, buy DirecTV.
     
  9. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    Forget the pension thing, for now.

    The USPS delivers 177 billion pieces of mail, annually.

    Raising the cost of a stamp a penny would generate 17 billion dollars more revenue.

    Your operating loss of of 5 billion just turned into a profit of 12 billion, and the post office is a model of efficiency.

    It's an accounting trick designed to fool people who aren't paying attention.
     
  10. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    Total agreement.
     
  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    That would be a fair comment for 1875. Not 1975.
     
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    No prob.

    And I agree. Just make it 50 cents already.
     
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