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"The Force Awakens" (with SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Dick Whitman, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    It was a 100 percent replication of A New Hope. I enjoyed it, but it was the same movie with a cooler looking Death Star
     
  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    If only JK Rowling had written Star Wars, it would have been a unified story and each episode could not have stood on its own, but had multiple threads leading to a satisfying and well written culmination. MCU did a good job in that regard.

    Star Wars was never thought out from the beginning. It was a fluke. A great action adventure western and war movie set in space. It struck good and Lucas just made it up as he went along.
     
  3. RonClements

    RonClements Well-Known Member

    Lucas first pitched Star Wars as a "Flash Gordon-style space opera." Space opera is literally what he called it.
     
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  4. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    His best stuff always had a strong sense of fun, wonder and surprise - you didn't obsess over how fuel for the spaceships worked because you were too busy just enjoying the ride. That's my biggest issue with the prequels - nobody really gave a shit about how the Galatic Senate worked except the most intense of S'Wars nerds - and the sequel trilogy is often trying to keep so many balls in the air that the action slows down.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    It wasn't a fluke. Lucas had a gift for world-building and a vision that pushed the limits of special effects at the time. He created iconic characters and put them in interesting environments and situations. No, it wasn't planned out nearly as well as the MCU or Harry Potter. It was a fantastic trilogy that lost a lot when they expanded it into so much more.
     
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  6. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    Major difference between Rowling and Lucas is time and archives.

    — Lucas made the preposterous claim that he had some massive saga written out in the 1970s. His own writings do not show that. The early manuscripts have names like Mace windu, valorum, starkiller, etc., but they are not the characters they would later become.
    — Rowling came along 20 years after Star Wars. The idea of massive pre-planned out stories was already a thing. Not so much when Lucas came along.
     
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  7. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Lord of the Rings was originally written in the 1930s and 1940s, before being published all together in 1954, per Wikipedia. Narnia was 1950 to 1956, the Chronicles of Prydain from 1964 to 1968, plus Lucas obviously cribbed from the idea of ongoing serials and comics. Kind of like the "Lost" folks, it seems like Lucas was bragging of having it all figured out, but truth be told it was probably just a rough outline in his head.
     
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  8. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    I knew I would get pummeled on the series thing as soon as I wrote it. I was thinking there was LOTR and Dune, but the rest was stuff like Bond and Flash Gordon that just punched out episodes and books with little cohesion.

    Of course, you can note that narnia and the rest you mentioned were book series. Star Wars set the stage for multi media sagas.
     
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  9. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Hey man, Godfather Part II was 1974! :D
     
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  10. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Storm Trooper armor is worse than their aim
     
  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    That reminds me about this

     
  12. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    In case you're wondering if this exists ... it does.

     
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