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The Atlantic on Dr. Kermit Gosnell

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Norrin Radd, Apr 12, 2013.

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  1. Norrin Radd

    Norrin Radd New Member

    Defies description.

    Not for the squeamish.

    But a riveting read.

  2. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    It's been interesting to watch the growing pressure from social media for the "Legacy Media" to get aboard on this story. The Washington Post says it's going to staff the trial now. AP has not gotten the memo.
  3. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Not sure it's too legitimately a "social media" thing. It seems to be very much a right wing media thing. Fox News had a big segment on "Why is the mainstream media refusing to cover this?!?" today, and it was the first time I'd seen Fox News address it. We started getting emails about it today, with the recurring theme of "why is the media mean to Rush Limbaugh but won't cover this?" The pressure seems to be very similar to the pressure to cover Obama's birth certificate.

    By the way, the reason you won't see much coverage is that the story is fucking horrifying, and can't adequately be told in a way that won't utterly drive away the audience. The implied suggestion that it's based on ideology is disingenuous at best.

    YGBFKM Guest

    That's a cop-out, PC. While this is especially horrifying, the people who decry any claims of media bias are always quick to say that it's not about ideology, it's about sensationalism. This story is about as sensational as it gets. I agree that more coverage probably would drive away parts of the audience -- I can only take so much of it -- but the media is truly worthless and might as well give up any pretense of mattering if they are going to argue with a straight face that some stories are too horrifying to cover. Using that logic, why cover any violence, whether it be local crime or the horrors of war? There's only one reason why this story would be ignored.
  5. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Let's assume your supposed deep, dark premise has anything to do with reality. If the MSM is all gaga for abortion rights, it should want to highlight this case, for it will be a cautionary tale about what will happen if abortion of all kinds are banned. And what kind of coverage do you want? 24 hours a day on CNN? Top 10 minutes of Nightly News? Cos hell, there's nothing going on in Congress right now or regarding North Korea that we should be paying notice to.

    Indeed, the question of "why is someone crying for the hell to be covered out of this story?" can be said to have a political answer as well, if you wish to play that game.
  6. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    No, it's really not.

    It's not "sensational" in any of the positive sense as far as media interest goes. It's just horrible, and sad, and disgusting, and just about anything else you can name.

    And let me be clear: I'm a local TV news producer in Phoenix, about 3,000 miles from where this is happening. We are suddenly, as of about 10am today, getting hit with emails demanding to know why we are covering up this story. And the answer is, I don't run any shit like this and I have no reason to. It's not local and it's not a story I can cover properly without utterly whitewashing what the guy did, because "scissors in the baby's spinal cord" isn't appearing in my newscast.

    I didn't cover Steubenville. Does that make me pro-rapist? I've largely avoided the Trayvon Martin case. Does that make me biased? If so, which way?

    If I were in Philly, I'd have a reporter on this. If I were working in print I'd cover it because you can turn away from a story in print in a way you just can't do on TV. It's not local for me and it's a showkiller, so I'm not going there.

    It doesn't have a damn thing to do with my views on abortion, which are pretty mixed in the first place.
  7. How long has FOX News been on the bandwagon? What about The Blaze?

    YGBFKM Guest

    You know that's not how it would be received, dools, or, at the very least, you know that people on one side of this issue don't want to take the chance that it would not be. Under your scenario, the other side should be afraid of what you suggest happening. But it's not. We all know most people, regardless of their politics, would be horrified by this story. That's a human response. To ignore that is not disingenuous, it's flat-out dishonest.

    Do you agree that certain stories are too horrifying to be covered? Do you not think the babies, women and families involved deserve for this story to be covered?

    YGBFKM Guest

    You work at a small station that only provides local news?
  10. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    I don't watch it closely, but we have a big monitor on the newsroom wall with Fox News on it. I have never seen them cover the trial before today's discussion about how terrible it is that the "mainstream media" isn't covering the trial.
  11. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    No, I produce a newscast that isn't laden with local crime from other cities. This is a story that has no impact on people from my viewing in any way, other than being horror porn.

    You asked Dools if the families involved don't deserve to have their story covered. What they deserve is a fair trial, and they're getting that. This guy doesn't go free if local stations in other markets don't cover the story.
  12. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Oh, it's horrifying. But I sure in the hell know how newspapers work (I'll trust PCLL knows a thing or 10 about TV), and hell, I'm sure you know about newspapers, too. I'm sure you can't really think there's a cabal at the major newspapers, headed by Scott Evil (Dr. Evil's salary got too high and he took the buyout), saying "We must not let the people know, hahahaha." You darn well know putting together the daily report is a mishmash of considerations, including story mix, what special packages your staffers have put together that you want to give play as your franchise, etc.

    So I would never truly think there's some dark conspiracy, and you surely know enough to not really believe that, either.
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