The AIG 73

alleyallen · Mar 20, 2009

Armchair_QB said:

AlleyAllen said:

RickStain said:

AlleyAllen said:

poindexter said:

Armchair_QB said:

poindexter said:

The constitution's been used as a doormat for about a decade.
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So by all means, let's continue to do that....
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As I said before, of all the outrages over the constitution being used as a table napkin over the past decade, taxing these assholes doesn't even register a blip. Worrying about taxing these guys ex post facto, with all the other shit going on, is the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns.

Grab the pitchforks if this one sends you over the edge.
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There's quite a bit of truth to this. The outrage over the bonuses is odd when you consider the greater issues out there still broken. These bonuses are a literal drop in the bucket compared to the bigger picture.
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I'd rather have the right amount of outrage come way too late and be directed at a subset of the people responsible than have no outrage at all.
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There's no doubt the outrage is good in that it forced everyone involved to take a closer look at this particular situation. Does anyone believe ANY of the bonuses would have been returned if not for the outrage?

However, let's remember this situation is only a microcosm of a much uglier picture.
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And the fact remains that every grandstanding fuck on the Hill had a chance to get that clause removed or raise holy hell about its inclusion before the bill was passed and not one of them uttered a peep of protest until it was too late to do anything about it legally.
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No argument there. I haven't praised anyone for their behavior in this mess, nor do I think anyone should be praised.

Armchair_QB · Mar 20, 2009

AlleyAllen said:

Armchair_QB said:

AlleyAllen said:

RickStain said:

AlleyAllen said:

poindexter said:

Armchair_QB said:

poindexter said:

The constitution's been used as a doormat for about a decade.
Click to expand...

So by all means, let's continue to do that....
Click to expand...

As I said before, of all the outrages over the constitution being used as a table napkin over the past decade, taxing these assholes doesn't even register a blip. Worrying about taxing these guys ex post facto, with all the other shit going on, is the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns.

Grab the pitchforks if this one sends you over the edge.
Click to expand...

There's quite a bit of truth to this. The outrage over the bonuses is odd when you consider the greater issues out there still broken. These bonuses are a literal drop in the bucket compared to the bigger picture.
Click to expand...

I'd rather have the right amount of outrage come way too late and be directed at a subset of the people responsible than have no outrage at all.
Click to expand...

There's no doubt the outrage is good in that it forced everyone involved to take a closer look at this particular situation. Does anyone believe ANY of the bonuses would have been returned if not for the outrage?

However, let's remember this situation is only a microcosm of a much uglier picture.
Click to expand...

And the fact remains that every grandstanding fuck on the Hill had a chance to get that clause removed or raise holy hell about its inclusion before the bill was passed and not one of them uttered a peep of protest until it was too late to do anything about it legally.
Click to expand...

No argument there. I haven't praised anyone for their behavior in this mess, nor do I think anyone should be praised.
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Unfortunately you're in the minority. Too many people are failing to recognize Congress' culpability on this issue and the underlying reasons why this slipped through in the first place.

Boom_70 · Mar 20, 2009

AlleyAllen said:

Armchair_QB said:

AlleyAllen said:

RickStain said:

AlleyAllen said:

poindexter said:

Armchair_QB said:

poindexter said:

The constitution's been used as a doormat for about a decade.
Click to expand...

So by all means, let's continue to do that....
Click to expand...

As I said before, of all the outrages over the constitution being used as a table napkin over the past decade, taxing these assholes doesn't even register a blip. Worrying about taxing these guys ex post facto, with all the other shit going on, is the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns.

Grab the pitchforks if this one sends you over the edge.
Click to expand...

There's quite a bit of truth to this. The outrage over the bonuses is odd when you consider the greater issues out there still broken. These bonuses are a literal drop in the bucket compared to the bigger picture.
Click to expand...

I'd rather have the right amount of outrage come way too late and be directed at a subset of the people responsible than have no outrage at all.
Click to expand...

There's no doubt the outrage is good in that it forced everyone involved to take a closer look at this particular situation. Does anyone believe ANY of the bonuses would have been returned if not for the outrage?

However, let's remember this situation is only a microcosm of a much uglier picture.
Click to expand...

And the fact remains that every grandstanding fuck on the Hill had a chance to get that clause removed or raise holy hell about its inclusion before the bill was passed and not one of them uttered a peep of protest until it was too late to do anything about it legally.
Click to expand...

No argument there. I haven't praised anyone for their behavior in this mess, nor do I think anyone should be praised.
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What about the 60 Republicans who voted against the bill?

Shaggy · Mar 20, 2009

Rolling Stone had a great article detailing just how big of a fucking mess AIG is, and how their arrogance is going to fuck over everybody in this country, and how Washington will allow it.

amraeder · Mar 22, 2009

AlleyAllen said:

RickStain said:

AlleyAllen said:

poindexter said:

Armchair_QB said:

poindexter said:

The constitution's been used as a doormat for about a decade.
Click to expand...

So by all means, let's continue to do that....
Click to expand...

As I said before, of all the outrages over the constitution being used as a table napkin over the past decade, taxing these assholes doesn't even register a blip. Worrying about taxing these guys ex post facto, with all the other shit going on, is the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns.

Grab the pitchforks if this one sends you over the edge.
Click to expand...

There's quite a bit of truth to this. The outrage over the bonuses is odd when you consider the greater issues out there still broken. These bonuses are a literal drop in the bucket compared to the bigger picture.
Click to expand...

I'd rather have the right amount of outrage come way too late and be directed at a subset of the people responsible than have no outrage at all.
Click to expand...

There's no doubt the outrage is good in that it forced everyone involved to take a closer look at this particular situation. Does anyone believe ANY of the bonuses would have been returned if not for the outrage?

However, let's remember this situation is only a microcosm of a much uglier picture.
Click to expand...

Seems like a good quote to paste before passing along these two links. Sorry if they are elsewhere. I didn't want to read through everything AIG related.
As always, read these and figure out for yourself if they're worth a damn or not. Just figured they'd be some food for thought.
http://www.slate.com/id/2213942/ and http://www.slate.com/id/2214407/?from=rss

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