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Terry Bradshaw steroid admission?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by wheateater, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    MLB doles out 50-game suspensions for the first failed drug test. That's almost 1/3 of the season. 100-game suspension for second offense. Almost 2/3 of the season.
     
  2. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    The sizable roster of those no longer with us who represented those teams strongly suggests that the steroid participation percentage within that group was extraordinary -- and not in a good way.
     
  3. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Which star has pulled one of those?
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I'm sure steroid use was rampant on those teams and many others in the '70s and in the years since, but I don't see how you can accurately use the number of dead Steelers from the '70s as evidence of steroid use.

    How many of those deaths can you really link steroids? Mike Webster maybe, but he had other health issues as well (though I don't doubt for a second that he used steroids his entire career). Ray Mansfield had a heart attack at 55, so maybe you can say he overtaxed his body.

    Who else? Dwight White died from complications during back surgery. Steve Courson, the admitted steroid user, was killed when a tree fell on him. Ernie Holmes was killed in a car accident. Joe Giliam died of a heart attack, but he had been a cocaine addict most of his adult life.

    Who else from those teams has died?
     
  5. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    You can't seriously be parsing your argument to only include "stars" now can you? The rules apply to every player in the league!

    Bottom line is that MLB's penalties are stiffer than the NFL's for a failed drug test. If A-Rod failed a steroids test tomorrow, MLB would suspend him for more than a quarter of the season. Just because he hasn't (nor have any other "stars") doesn't mean the NFL has a tougher steroid policy.

    Besides, I don't want to live in a world where Jason Grimsley isn't considered a star.
     
  6. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    For openers, off the top? Steve Furness, Dave Brown, Ray Oldham and Jim Clack.
     
  7. Iron_chet

    Iron_chet Well-Known Member

    Like a lot of the wrestler deaths, I don't think it is simply steroids that shortens the life spans but the associated lifestyles that can go with it.

    If a pro athlete is using steroids for performance enhancement then there is a good chance that they are using other perfomance enhancers as well.

    I remember first reading Ball Four as a kid and being shocked at all the references to greenies. I would bet that amphetamines also made their way to the NFL.

    Throw in the boozing, coke and whatever else along with the pounding the body takes and it is not suprising that guys drop off.

    It is the lifestyle, not the steroids themselves.
     
  8. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    Terry Bradshaw should have his bald spot fucked by a Viagra-addled orangutan for the rest of his smirking, douchebag life. That is all.
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I really was asking because I knew I was missing a few.

    I forgot about Furness. Another one that belongs on the suspicious list. Brown and Oldham each played one season for the Steelers, but fine, throw them in. That's five off an entire decade of teams that you really have to wonder why they had heart problems at such young ages.

    Jim Clack's actual cause of death was a heart attack, but he had cancer.

    The death total from those teams, and the teams from the '80s, is unfair to use as a barometer because so many of the deaths had causes which clearly have nothing to do with steroids.

    Truthfully, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the whole team was using something, but there is better evidence out there than counting the obituaries.
     
  10. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    The numbers stick out, though.

    As the LAT pointed out in mid-'06, of all NFLers from the '70s and '80s who died since 2000, 16 of 77 were Steelers.
     
  11. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Hey, maybe it was something in the Three Rivers turf.

    Or maybe something in the air.

    But the raw numbers beg for attention.
     
  12. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/search/s_462321.html

     
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