Tell me that Calvin Tillie deserves to live

I guess we'll have to disagree. But life without parole can be a fraud.

 

Pretty soon we'll have as many death penalty threads as Mitchell threads.

Memo to Abbott: the US is the only country in the Western World that still carries out executions. Not something you should be proud of.

Must be a slow day in the Muslim/Black newsfront.

 

Is there a civilized country with a similar amount of per capita murders and violent crimes as the USA?

 

We've had more execution threads than actual executions in the last five years, I am pretty sure.

 

Are you trying to call the USofA an uncivilized country, pardner?

 

Went through this yesterday, 'Yab. Murder rates are lower in states without the death penalty.

 

Facts are stupid things.

 

From yesterday's thread http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/threads/50671/



And the per capita yearly murder rates in states with the death penalty (in 2005, that was 5.87 per 100,000 people) is higher than in states without it (4.03 in 2005). For example, Texas, which has executed 405 people since 1982, had a per capita murder rate of 5.9 in 2006, a full percent higher than New Jersey’s 4.9, which hasn’t executed anyone in that time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/opinion/nyregionopinions/02NJharrison.html

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=168

And as to whether or not victims should have a say in the application of the death penalty:

But decisions made about the death penalty are not chiefly about numbers. They are about right and wrong. And while some victims’ families do long to see their loved one’s killer executed, when the bipartisan New Jersey Death Penalty Study Commission heard testimony from victims’ families, a majority spoke in favor of repealing the death penalty.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/opinion/nyregionopinions/02NJharrison.html

 

I say cut his balls off and feed them to him. But that's just me.

 

Of course, a LOT of factors go into a state's per capita murder rate besides whether it's an execution state or not. To assume a direct correlation between the two items, without considering a host of other factors, is just plain silly.

 

Not states, countries. The point raised was that the US is the only Western Nation to still have the DP, I was asking if those nations encounter the same level of violence as we do?

 

Which might imply that the death penalty is no deterent.