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Taibbi: The News Media Is Destroying Itself

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Alma, Jun 12, 2020.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure it's representative of anything going forward. I think it was a high stakes, high stress aberration that revealed some weaknesses in the OpEd process, and will drive some institutional changes to address them.

    We'll see though.
  2. inthesuburbs

    inthesuburbs Member

    It's also not representative of anything going backward.
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  3. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile, Sen. Cotton has yet to weigh in on reports that his boy in the White House — as opposed to his boys on the side — knew about Putin’s work to have Our Soldiers killed.
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  4. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Sorry to break it to you, but Lena Dunham blogs and tweets are the real threat to America.
  5. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

  7. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Funny little review.
  8. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    It has some thoughts in it, for sure. It's too long, and it repeats itself a lot, but interesting.

    This is an interesting paragraph:

    Now, you may wonder: Doesn’t this world-weary presumption that you know how arguments will go lead to paranoid readings and meta-debates that seem totally batshit to onlookers who aren’t internet-poisoned? Yup! And that crosses over into real-life engagements too, since at this point it would be foolish to insist that online patterns aren’t having offline effects. Take “All Lives Matter.” Most people by now understand how the phrase works to undermine social justice protests, but for a long time, it did exactly what it was meant to: It made people who knew what it was actually saying seem paranoid and crazy for objecting to an anodyne statement that seemed bighearted and self-evident. “Why would you refuse to debate someone who’s simply saying that all lives matter?” is the kind of question an Enlightenment subject longing for a robust exchange of ideas might ask. Well, the reason is that most of us have learned, through bitter experience in the mirror-halls of the internet, that it would be a waste of time. It probably wouldn’t be a true exchange. We’ve tried. We’ve watched others try. And we know by now what “All Lives Matter” signals, and that what it signals is orthogonal to what it says. Your fluency in this garbage means you take shortcuts: Maybe, if you’ve been online a lot, you don’t even bother to refute the text anymore. You leap to the subtext—which is that black people don’t deserve public advocacy or concern despite being disproportionately abused and killed by police. So maybe you don’t argue. Maybe you just call that position racist and call it a day.

    I agree that "All Lives Matter" is a kind of pointless submarine of the very real need to address what's happening in and to African-Americans.
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  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    interesting how and by whom those slogans and phrases get jiu-jitsued into meaninglessness or insult.


    politically correct

    black lives/all lives/blue lives matter
  11. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Your boy seems nice.

  12. Kolchak

    Kolchak Active Member

    This week you have Tucker Carlson on the right and Derecka Burnell on the left both shoveling obvious BS, but as long as their followers hear what they want from them, then they get to keep on doing what they're doing.
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