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Style question re: common cliche

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Jay Sherman, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. Jay Sherman

    Jay Sherman Member

    Crossing all Ts and dotting all Is
    Crossing all T's and dotting all Is
    Crossing all Tees and dotting all Ieieieieieieiehghs

  2. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    I believe the discussion we had on this a few months ago concluded that the apostrophes were necessary, if undesirable, to prevent I's, for example, from looking like the word Is. Not as necessary with T's, but do it for consistency's sake.
  3. zebracoy

    zebracoy Guest

    That was, indeed, what was unfortunately agreed upon.
  4. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    And it's AP style.
  5. ondeadline

    ondeadline Active Member

    The style is "T's" and "I's." The latter is one of the best examples why: the reader would think that it's the word "Is" if that appeared at the beginning of a sentence.
  6. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    I'm going to be the asshole here and point this out (mainly because this is a copy-edit thread)...

    Your thread topic is about a "common cliché." What would an uncommon cliché be?
  7. CentralIllinoisan

    CentralIllinoisan Active Member

    unless it's in a quote, don't ever use that phrase. But if you have to, use apostrophes.
  8. Gold

    Gold Active Member

    I wonder if the best way would be ... crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s. This would seem to make this clear.
  9. azmgb

    azmgb New Member

    I agree with "crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s." You can't dot the i if it's capitalized.
  10. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    How do you write this?

    "There are three (toos) in the English language.
  11. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    I always loved the MAD Magazine book of "Horrifying Cliches."
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