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Style question for the old-timers

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Smallpotatoes, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. MC Sports Guy

    MC Sports Guy Member

    To me, simply because saying "Coach joked" is shorter than saying Coach said, jokingly. Maybe that's not good enough a reason, but my best journalism professor always told me when presented with two ways to say one thing, pick the shorter one.

    but like I said, I'm not one to allow implied, stated, etc. into stories. I only find myself doing it in this situation to convey sarsasm.
  2. The worst is stringers who do something like --

    "Man, that defense really sucked tonight," Haywood Jablome, Bumfuck U's coach, said.
  3. OTD

    OTD Well-Known Member

    "he remarked" was a favorite of someone whose copy I used to edit (and who has been ripped on this board before). I changed it to said everytime, and he never figured out why.

    Another thing that pisses me off: using "he says" instead of "he said." The same guy used to use "says" for features--how that made it more featurey, I never figured out.
  4. SF_Express

    SF_Express Active Member

    Actually, OTD, my old friend, I'm not against the present tense in certain feature contexts. Not all the time, certainly, but to me it's not black and white.
  5. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    I don't mind present tense when talking about someone's philosophy or oft-repeated sentiment

    Joey Doe says there's nothing like a little rim action in the morning.
  6. PHINJ

    PHINJ Active Member

    "Say Say Say" is not a fucking Beatles song.
  7. OTD

    OTD Well-Known Member

    I understand, and wouldn't blindly change it if it made sense. But in this case, that was how this person defined it as a feature--and it was annoying as hell.
  8. m2spts

    m2spts Member

    It's like exclamation points!
    Bristled, exclaimed, quipped ... no.
    It's he said, she said.
    Enough said.
    Also, the "said" should come as close to the comma close quote (e.g., said M2spts or M2spts said) and not after a name, job title (e.g., Bob Knight, the coach of the Texas Tech basketball team, said.)
  9. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    What about interrobangs‽ Can we use them‽
  10. I'm confused.

    Is it, "Blah, blah, blah," said Said.

    Or, "Blah, blah, blah," Said said.
  11. Boobie Miles

    Boobie Miles Active Member

    So no matter what the quote is you always put the attribution after the first sentence? I think that's typically the way to go but sometimes if it breaks up one thought that is two sentences, I'll put it after the second sentence.

    "This was a total team effort. It's great anytime you can have five players score in double figures," coach Jones said. "Now we just need to keep this up going into the tournament."
  12. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    In that case, I'd be more likely to change the period into a semicolon

    "This was a total team effort; it's great any time you can have five players score in double figures," Jones said. "Now we just need to keep this up going into the tournament."
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