Steubenville-like case with worst ending: Girl's suicide linked to rape, photos

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_23016658/audrie-pott-case-saratoga-teens-friends-told-mom

Horrible. A 15-year-old girl committed suicide last fall, and afterward her parents searched her phone and saw texts, photos and other material related to her being raped after she passed out drunk at a party, along with some after-the-fact bullying. The parents are identifying the girl and launching a publicity campaign about her death, with hopes of an "Audrie's Law" regarding cyberbullying.

Three boys were arrested this week. They're in juvenile court for now. Saratoga is one of the wealthiest parts of the Bay Area, so the boys are probably going to get legal representation quite a bit better than what the Steubenville defendants got. OTOH, investigators took seven months and it sounds like they got a whole lot of evidence.

 

several accounts referred to the rape as savage and that the pics that were taken while she was being raped when viral. little cock suckers. not only do i hope the pricks who raped her get tried as adults, but i also hope that the kids who passed on those pics are taken to court and charged as adults for distributing child porn.

 

There's a similar case in Canada that blew up last week when the girl committed suicide. In this case, the assault was reported but no charges were ever brought. It's become a big story. http://bit.ly/16OC7w0

 

What the hell do we need to do as a society to make this stop? 99.99 percent of it falls back on today's parents not holding kids accountable for their actions. "Little Johnny does no wrong!" Kids know there are no repercussions for misdeeds, so it starts with back talking mom, moves on to breaking something at a restaurant, theft, and rape. It won't end until kids are brought up to understand with every crime there will be a punishment. Time out and taking away the cell phone for the night clearly isn't working.

 

Sick shit like this isn't new. Being able to share and send pics of it is.

 

I hope that the little shitbirds het serious jail time and get an up close feeling of what it is like to be victimized and helpless, maybe the fucks will learn some empathy.

At least you guys in the states have cops who investigated and charged these turds. The RCMP in Canada proved once again what a joke they are by not being able to charge anyone, despite pics being circulated.

Lots of media attention on the case with even our PM commenting and suddenly there is new evidence. These Keystone cops should pack it in already.

I was discussing this case with my wife and I said that I honestly don't know if people who do things like this deserve to be in society. At the risk of only doling out Starman justice I think some people should be put on ice floes with the polar bears and told to fuck off.

Depressing news day up here, these rape stories, guy who tortured a dog and some lowlife who beat one 4 month old so bad he dies and then beat another one who almost died.

What the hell is wrong with people.

 

What's new, in my opinion is parents' lack of discipline.

Feel free to roll eyes but here goes. Years ago when I was a little crapper I opened my mouth to my teacher, disagreeing with something she said and criticizing her. Harmless by today's standards by harsh for the student I was at the time. I was a friggin' angel at the time and what I did was out of character and wrong.

My parents went off on me and made it clear I would not mouth off to a teacher or any other authority figure ever again.

Fast-forward about 150 years to today. My wife, a teacher, could tell you horror stories about attempting to discipline kids and getting 0% support from the majority of parents. Not just 0% support from those parents but the response is to accuse other students of being the problem and/or accuse teachers of incompetence/unjust treatment of their kid.

Most teachers, I am sure, can share similar frustrations.

Talk to HS coaches and you'll hear similar stories.

 

Twenty-five years ago I dreaded parent-teacher conference day because my Mom was gonna' hear everything wrong with me.

Now, kids love parent-teacher day because the teacher hears from the parent everything wrong with them.

 

No one was raped back then.

 

Your parents were not universally like all parents then. There were bad parents and good parents then, just as there are now.

There were kids in your age that were poorly raised and grew up to be teenage rapists. They just didn't post about it on Facebook so you never found out.

 

Sorry, if you talk to teachers/administrators at the elementary and HS levels they would laugh in your face.

 

It is a little of both.

There were asshole rapist kids back in the day as well. However, there is far less respect in the younger generation than today, and I would argue they are a lot stupider in a lot of ways than they were back then. Hell, I even saw it by the end of my high school days the changing dynamic among the different grades, where it was getting progressivey worse with each grade to the point where the Grade 7s showed no respect to the Grade 12s, where it was the exact opposite when I was in Grade 7 -- you did not interact with the Grade 12s, especially if you had to go to a class or talk to a sibling on their side of the school, and above all else you did not lip them off. And that was almost 13 years ago. And I know shit has gotten worse since then. I know I have railed against teachers on here before, but you couldn't pay me enough money to deal with the little shits today.

A lot of it does come down to parenting, and while there were absolutely poorly parented kids back then, it is a lot worse today. Parents don't want to hear little Johnny is a pain in the ass, many of them look to blame someone else. I think a large part of it is the time parents actually spend raising their kids today. Most households, by the time the kid(s) are back in school, both parents are working at least part time, and at home the distractions are a millions times what they were back in the day, between computers, smart phones, the explosion of video games and online gaming, and everything else. That constant communication amongst themselves also has seen the rise of cyberbullying and made it easier for them to plot out shit or receive the wrong kind of education -- they are much more open and receptive to ideas, good or bad, they stumble across on the interwebs.

Also, how much of the shit they have, do they actually earn? More than ever, I think there is a sense of entitlement. I even look at my little brother, 12 years younger than me, and how different it has been for him from a parenting side, where so much has been handed to him. If I wanted something, I had to work for it and had my first job on a farm the summer between Grade 8 and 9. I don't begrudge him it, his situation now is completely different than my situation when I was his age, and he actually is a real good kid. Hell, growing up we only ever had one TV in the house, a lot of kids have their own TV now. The other part that does play into it is diet, and how what kids eat today fucks them up, everything from high sugar foods, the energy drinks, to hormone infused meat and genetically modified grains and vegetables -- that is if you can get them to eat a vegetable.

How do you punish a kid now, particularly a rebellious teenager? By all means, you are no longer allowed to spank them. You can ground them, so they storm to their room where they have their own computer, tablet, smart phone video games, etc. where's the downside? There is little fear of any reprecusion.

I know I'm probably painting with a broad brush and am going to insite many parents on the board who will fire back with "That's not how I do it!" But I'm just pissed off at constantly seeing this shit happen. There is a quickly shrinking level of respect out there, especially among the youth, or maybe they're just grabbing a larger share of the spotlight in a 24-hour news world and others feed off of it.