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So I really pay no income tax?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Smallpotatoes, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Don't just stand there. Get the fuck out of the way. Move!
     
  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I said this about smallpotatoes like half a decade ago.

    He's actually toned down his act.
     
  3. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    47% don't pay federal income taxes. Is it that hard to figure out?
     
  4. D.Sanchez

    D.Sanchez Member

    If your goal is, for the year 2009, to calculate who received a net credit from the Federal government and who paid taxes then you have to include benefits received if your are going to include the taxes -- to be fair.

    For example, say an unretired person paid zero Federal income taxes (part of the 47%) but paid Social Security taxes. The author of that article counts that person as a taxpayer. Fair enough, but the reverse has to count. Say a retired person paid income taxes (maybe on their IRA distributions) but received Social Security benefits greater than their tax liability. By fair accounting, they should not be counted as a taxpayer, they received more money from the government then they paid. However, the author counts both those people as taxpayers, which is double dipping since he doesn't include the social security payment in his calculations. For the retired person he treats their lifetime of prior Social Security "taxes" as if they are contributions to a pension plan but for the still working person he counts them as a payroll tax.
     
  5. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    I've often felt the same way about 93Devil.
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    small, I can help you figure out whether you paid income tax. All you have to do is send me your refund and I will analyze it to determine your situation. And since I am a pretty good guy, and I really want to help you, next year, I will determine whether or not you gave away your refund to me this year. Free of charge!
     
  7. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    I always give the interest-free loan. I dont have the discipline to set aside money to gather interest to pay my taxes with
     
  8. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    I usually do too, dools. I figure my piddling little $600-$700 won't help the government that much, but it sure helps me in March of each year. :)
     
  9. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Please keep that avatar. Forever.
     
  10. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    who hasn't
     
  11. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    Here's the part that puzzles the sh*t out of me. You say that, then the story says this:

    The 47 percent number is not wrong. The stimulus programs of the last two years (snip) have increased the number of households that receive enough of a tax credit to wipe out their federal income tax liability.

    It appears it's only a myth if you incorrectly frame the issue being discussed as pertaining to all taxes, not just federal income taxes.
     
  12. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Some people really need to take financial literacy classes. There is a box on the tax form that shows you how much tax you are liable for and how much you paid already.
     
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