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Slut shaming in the Buffalo News?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Dick Whitman, Aug 10, 2015.

  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I am sure that the News would be thrilled to print whatever Kane or his lawyers want to say about the matter.

    Leering bar owners with a conflict of interest should be saved for the witness stand.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What if the woman's friend wanted to talk to the paper? Would you print it?

    Again, the problem is that Kane isn't really permitted to mount his own defense. The accuser is to be believed.
     
  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    They shouldn't report his "defense" because the asshole they quoted admitted HE DOESN'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME WOMAN OR NOT. And, THE NEWSPAPER SAID IT COULD NOT CONFIRM WHO SHE WAS.

    So, his "defense" is, "some random woman flirted with Kane during the evening."
     
  4. SBR

    SBR Member

    The paper isn't presenting a defense. It's reporting on an alleged incident.

    There are accusations that Kane behaved badly at a bar with a woman. The newspaper went to the bar and interviewed some people who were there. This is news reporting 101.
     
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  5. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Who is stopping him?
     
  6. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    No. The issue was never how Kane behaved at the bar.

    And, no one ever said don't interview people who were there. "News reporting 101" requires that you CONFIRM what you report, though. Not just the speculation of someone with a vested interest in a certain outcome.

    "News reporting 101" also requires that you explain to me how some random woman who may or may not be the accuser flirting with a famous athlete at a bar has any bearing on whether there was a rape a few hours later - of this woman or someone totally different.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The readers are more than capable of assessing the witness's credibility without us protecting them.
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Exactly. That is why jurors are requested to read all the news coverage they can of the case they are sitting on.
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    You're supporting the reporting of unconfirmed speculation from a biased source regarding an active criminal case. Awesome.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The cops reporter thinks all our information should come from ... cops. Double awesome.
     
  11. SBR

    SBR Member

    Not so. From the article:

    Croce said he has been asked by the Erie County District Attorney’s Office to make a statement, and he said he and bar employees will cooperate in the investigation.
    and
    "Croce said he has been inundated with media requests for interviews. He said he decided to speak to The News on Saturday night because he is upset with media reports that “insinuate” that Kane was out of control during his time at SkyBar."

    So what happened at the bar is definitely relevant to the story and it is completely legitimate for the newspaper to talk to people from the bar.

    This "vested interest/conflict of interest" business is a complete canard. Just who in this story doesn't have a "vested interest" in the outcome? The police? The DA? Kane? The accuser? The lawyers?

    Every news story you ever read, the subjects had a vested interest in the outcome of whatever it was about. Criminal cases, elections, union contracts, you name it. That the bar owner took a picture with Kane at one point doesn't rise to the level of "vested interest."
     
  12. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Sorry, you're going to have to show me all of these media reports that Croce claim "insinuated" Kane was out of control. They shouldn't have been too hard to link to.
     
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