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Should W-L for pitchers just be phased out entirely?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, the "Olerud is a Hall of Famer" argument, the argument that keeps giving, thank God.
     
  2. Hey Diaz!

    Hey Diaz! Member

    Does Dick start a thread for every random thought that pops into this head?
     
  3. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    A pitcher's W-L record is important because, well, some guys are just clutch on the mound ... ;)
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 1h
    The Tigers are 53-46 on days when others not named Max Scherzer have pitched, 20-5 in the games he has pitched.
     
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    The Phillies won 32 games on days when others not named Steve Carlton pitched, 27 more in games he pitched. #OlneyTweetFrom1972.
     
  6. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Stats don't have to be useful to be interesting.

    Pitcher wins is a particularly useless stat, but it can be fun. It's not going anywhere.
     
  7. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Why would that be interesting?
     
  8. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    So is a team's record when a pitcher starts more important than a pitcher's record then?
     
  9. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Yes and no. Yes it is, and no it isn't. It's all a very confusing situation that is above most people's heads.

    But Clayton Kershaw got a win and an RBI yesterday, so his game was especially meaningless.
     
  10. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    But was it a Pythagorean win?
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I prefer to measure Euclidian wins. They are less linear.
     
  12. LarryCathey

    LarryCathey Member

    I remember getting mad when Topps removed "game-winning RBI" from the back of cards in the late 80s or so. I still think that's interesting, even if not particularly useful.
     
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