Say goodbye to the Fighting Sioux

spikechiquet · May 16, 2009

Shoeless Joe said:

A school in the conference I cover recently had to drop Indians as its mascot because of NCAA pressure. They have played the last two years with no mascot. Someone came up with the idea to change their mascot to "Engines" and slap a train on the side of the helmets as screw you to the NCAA and the PC Police. That would be classic if they had the balls to do it.
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It took me a good 10 minutes to get that. That was funny. I need sleep now.

TrooperBari · May 16, 2009

Zeke12 said:

And staying DII simply isn't a viable option for North Dakota.

SDSU, NDSU, USD, Northern Colorado, etc. have all made the jump up. Morningside went down to D-III.

That leaves Augustana, Minnesota State, Minnesota Duluth and St. Cloud State, who I think ended up in the Northern Sun.

There's no more NCC, no people to play for hundreds of miles of open prairie.
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Yes, Augie and the Minnesota schools all went to the Northern Sun. UNO, brain-dead as they were, stayed D-II and went to the MIAA. Hopefully that all changes (along with the move to the WCHA).

Of course, UND has been in the process of going D-I for a while now:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2494970

steveu · May 16, 2009

micropolitan guy said:

The should become the University of North Dakota Cavalry, considering the state's history with that outfit of the Army.
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Careful. The way the PC police are going these days, someone might find the connection with the Army to be offensive.

Ben_Hecht · May 16, 2009

writing irish said:

As a Blackhawks fan, of course I've thought about this one. Black Hawk was a member of the Sac (or Sauk) nation, whose present-day leadership has been largely ambivalent or indifferent about the team's use of the name. Of course Black Hawk's name is all over North American culture; it's not just the Chicago NHL team. If the Sac ever changed their tune and decided they were pissed off about the logo, I'd say fine, retire the Indian Head and the tomahawked "C." I wouldn't like to see those images replaced with some bird logo or whatever, but I'd get over it.
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As a passionate defender of the classiest uniform shirt in major professional sports, I say:

Over my bloodied, dead body.

micropolitan guy · May 16, 2009

I believe Garrison High School is the Troopers, and their mascot dressed as a cavalry trooper. So it certainly would not be unprecedented in North Nowhere.

ScribePharisee · May 16, 2009

Mark2010 said:

That royally sucks. All in the name of political correctness bullcrap.

What's next? No more Seminoles or Illini. The NCAA really goes off the deep end on some of these matters.
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They can't come up with a football playoff, but by damn, let's jack with nicknames.

writing irish · May 16, 2009

Ben_Hecht said:

writing irish said:

As a Blackhawks fan, of course I've thought about this one. Black Hawk was a member of the Sac (or Sauk) nation, whose present-day leadership has been largely ambivalent or indifferent about the team's use of the name. Of course Black Hawk's name is all over North American culture; it's not just the Chicago NHL team. If the Sac ever changed their tune and decided they were pissed off about the logo, I'd say fine, retire the Indian Head and the tomahawked "C." I wouldn't like to see those images replaced with some bird logo or whatever, but I'd get over it.
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As a passionate defender of the classiest uniform shirt in major professional sports, I say:

Over my bloodied, dead body.
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I also think that the Hawks jersey is the best one in sports.

Mark2010 · May 18, 2009

I Digress said:

This isn't about the university or even the NCAA. If the Native Americans in that area don't support the nickname, it should be replaced. Period. I'm ambivalent on generic names.. like Indians and Warriors....I find Redskins offensive.
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Yankees are offensive, too.

Ashy Larry · May 18, 2009

well....a college in Quincy MA. has changed it's name from "Crusaders" to "Lions" :

A Christian college in Quincy has thrown its mascot to the lions, dropping the name Crusaders because of its historical connotations of religious wars.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/05/14/college_converts_its_crusader_teams/

writing irish · May 18, 2009

Mark2010 said:

I Digress said:

This isn't about the university or even the NCAA. If the Native Americans in that area don't support the nickname, it should be replaced. Period. I'm ambivalent on generic names.. like Indians and Warriors....I find Redskins offensive.
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Yankees are offensive, too.
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True, my skin crawls when I hear them mentioned.

fossywriter8 · May 19, 2009

writing irish said:

Now, Beavers is a nickname that I can get behind.
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Or in front of.

Twoback · May 19, 2009

Mark2010 said:

That royally sucks. All in the name of political correctness bullcrap.

What's next? No more Seminoles or Illini. The NCAA really goes off the deep end on some of these matters.
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The American Indians were systematically exterminated only a little more than 100 years ago.
You think that's not enough oppression? You're rooting for more?

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