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Say good-bye, Gen. Pace

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by spnited, Mar 12, 2007.

  1. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs says gays are "immoral" and should not be in the military

  2. Boomer7

    Boomer7 Active Member

    Well, he is sort of toeing the party line, no?

    This guy should, however, be fired for totally closing his eyes to reality the last four years. He's about as close as our military has to a Baghdad Bob. Sunshine and lollipops, that's what this war's been about, according to Peter Pace.
  3. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    What a remarkably stupid comment for him to make.
  4. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    When this issue first moved to the front burner during the beginning of the Clinton administration, I noticed that in most of the cases I read about where somebody was discharged for being gay, the service member who was discharged had been doing a good job and received nothing but favorable evaluations.
    I'm sure there were a few chronic fuckups who were also discharged because they were gay and if they weren't booted out for being gay, would have been kicked out for being fuckups, but it seems kind of self-defeating to get rid of people who are doing a good job.
    In a time when the military needs all the good people it can get, it doesn't make sense to get rid of highly competent soldiers.
  5. I'm shocked.
  6. Shoot.
    There goes Mary Cheney's chance to serve.
  7. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    General Pace ... coming soon to a rehab center near you ...
  8. trounced

    trounced Active Member

    Why is it a stupid comment? It's true. I guess he's just supposed to lie.
  9. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Thus sayeth trounced, whose compassionate conservatism bathes us all in his warming light.
  10. terrier

    terrier Well-Known Member

    Off the moral gobbledygook for a second. Given the military's difficulty in retaining personnel (requiring second and third tours from Guardsmen and further killing recruiting), and the fact that gay members served in a number of valuable specialties (including languages, translation, etc.) where they are tough to replace, can our military AFFORD don't ask don't tell, let along the JCS chairman going Ann Coulter on us? How can the military just cavalierly turn away a group of people willing to serve?
    All I know is, if I'm leading a platoon in Afghanistan and there's one guy that can converse with the locals in Pashtu, I don' give a flying bleep which team he plays for.
  11. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    My point exactly.
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    And if you do feel it is immoral, what of it?

    If a soldier sleeps with a prostitute, do you kick him out of the army?

    How about if someone takes the name of the Lord in vain? Dishonorable discharge on the spot?

    I really fail to see why if you consider homosexuality immoral or a sin, it is so much worse than behavior that you would readily accept or at least tolerate in straight people.
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